While Recording Screen - User Interface Discussion - including remotes

[Mmmm]

Ahhh... so it's the bitrate ifo you want displayed is it? I finally get what you're going on about now!
The status bar is important in the WRS as it displays the batt icon...the best thing would be to get the bitrate info into the statusbar....

[Llorean]

Wouldn't the bitrate go on the line that currently says 44.1khz Mono anyway?

[Mmmm]

Wouldn't the bitrate go on the line that currently says 44.1khz Mono anyway?

Yes that's right but there isn't enough space to display that line on the remote.

[Llorean]

Ah. Well, I doubt realtime monitoring of bitrate is particularly useful.

It seems to me though, that the WRS could benefit from a configurable status-bar. Maybe a very very simple WPS-like code, just for that screen? As a lot of status-bar info is useless there.

[Mmmm]

It seems to me though, that the WRS could benefit from a configurable status-bar. Maybe a very very simple WPS-like code, just for that screen? As a lot of status-bar info is useless there.

I don't think it needs to be configurable, it just needs to display different info.

So if you are in the recording screen, there is no need for Shuffle or Repeat indicators, instead we could have bitrate, frequency and stereo indicators...

[Mmmm]

Well, here is my first attempt...No problem with the code but I'm awful at doing icons!  

So if you fancy it and you are feeling artistic see if you can make some better ones

The frequency icons must be 12 pixels wide by 8 pixels high
and we need icons for
44.1kHz
48kHz
32kHz
22.05kHz
24kHz
16kHz
That's analogue..

I havent got the code in for digital yet but for that we'll need extra icons for

8000hz
11025hz
12000hz
64000hz
88200hz
96000hz
It's a nightmare fitting them in 12 pixels (well, for untalented types like me that is)

Also the stereo/mono icons need to be 5 wide and 8 high.

Anyway, here are some screenshots..They have to fit into this space because the recorder has that darn clock!


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[Llorean]

I know these aren't pretty, but they fit and are readable.

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[Davide-NYC]

Hello Everyone,

I missed a few posts in this topic and I am now (as usual) a bit confused.
I (unfortunately) do not like the samplerate displayed in the status bar.
It's too crowded and IMO it just doesn't belong there.

My intent for this topic was to make everything essential visible on the RLCD at the same time as well as making some room on the RLCD for future recording features (real time encoding options, thus the bitrate remark)

Please bear with my rant about this particular change:

[rant]

Currently the samplerate only changes depending on digital input.
Mic input and Line input only record at 44.1kHz so there is no change or need for display there. (at least for now)

On digital input there is no Gain line displayed nor is the AGC line displayed.
Therefore in the only instance in which having input samplerate displayed is necessary there is plenty of room to display it on both the LCD and the RLCD where it is being displayed now (under the Volume line)

[end rant]

The whole gist of this Suggestion topic was to get everything necessary displayed on the  iRiver RLCDs at the same time.

Having the status bar displayed is a good idea.
Having the ability to change AGC from the WRS is also a good idea.
Being able to remove either the AGC line or the Statusbar would allow all of the (deemed) necessary WRS information to be displayed on the RLCD at the same time.

I have an idea that might be best.
We could leave everything as it was and we'll deal with fitting the encoding options on the RLCD when they show up. I can live with the scrolling. It's not that bad. I was just nit  picking.

So since there's going to be scolling on the RLCD no matter what, why not have all three visible lines scroll? Mimicking the scroll behavior seen everywhere else?


Volume: 0 dB
Gain Left: -64.0 dB
Gain Right: -13.5 dB


(click DOWN)
Gain Left: -64.0 dB
Gain Right: -13.5 dB
AGC: Off

After that (if at all possible) we could implement a scrollbar on the left side on the lower portion of the screen (under the peakmeter) incase we end up with a lot of options. (doubtful)

A lastly (I'm really sorry about all of the ideas) I am of the opinion that the statusbar and the (if implemented) scrollbar statuses (sp?) should be retained from the main menu settings just for consistency across both the main WRS and the RWRS.

Mad respect to all at in the Rockbox mines digging away at this thing.
Assign me some trivial task that requires no programming.  

[Llorean]

In response to your rant, you even admit that it'll only be that way until encoded recording is possible. I'll just say it would be a *very* bad idea to assume that won't happen, or to make plans that don't take its presence into account.

[Davide-NYC]

I was in IRC for a bit and am now totally convinced that scrolling will be with us on the RLCD no matter what. As soon as encoding hits it will defeinitely be necessary on the remotes.

Later on today (need to find time) I will post a mock up of an idea I have about generalizing the WRS and the RWRS to all targets.

(I wish RockBox would dump official support for the teeny LCD targets, Archos Recorder etc.)

[Mmmm]

Hello Everyone,

I missed a few posts in this topic and I am now (as usual) a bit confused.
I (unfortunately) do not like the samplerate displayed in the status bar.
It's too crowded and IMO it just doesn't belong there.

I agree it is too crowded but I thought some decent icons might fix that. I think that actually any info you can get in the status bar does belong there as it is a status bar after all!

So since there's going to be scolling on the RLCD no matter what, why not have all three visible lines scroll? Mimicking the scroll behavior seen everywhere else?


Volume: 0 dB
Gain Left: -64.0 dB
Gain Right: -13.5 dB


(click DOWN)
Gain Left: -64.0 dB
Gain Right: -13.5 dB
AGC: Off

After that (if at all possible) we could implement a scrollbar on the left side on the lower portion of the screen (under the peakmeter) incase we end up with a lot of options. (doubtful)

I agree, but this is a different argument I think.... It would be ideal if the frequency/bitrate was visible at all times. The only way for this to work would be if it was displayed in the top half of the screen.

A lastly (I'm really sorry about all of the ideas) I am of the opinion that the statusbar and the (if implemented) scrollbar statuses (sp?) should be retained from the main menu settings just for consistency across both the main WRS and the RWRS.

Not sure what you are getting at here but are you saying it is important to keep the shuffle and play mode on the statusbar while in WRS? If that is what you are saying, why?

Mad respect to all at in the Rockbox mines digging away at this thing.
Assign me some trivial task that requires no programming.  

Make some icons!

[Mmmm]

I know these aren't pretty, but they fit and are readable.

Ta Llorean..but it would be nice (not necessarily possible though) if we could keep the accuracy (at least 1dp anyway)

Oh and 7 pixels high is the correct measurement! sorry..  

[Mmmm]

With some slightly modified versions of Llorean's Icons and a slightly changed stereo/mono icons It's looking pretty good I reckon. Its clear and easy to read now (especially on the unit).

Have a look....

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[Mmmm]

It appears that this just ain't going to happen....  

" The statusbar is the statusbar. It should be identical for all screens"

seems to be the opinion. So that's the end of that.
I can't see any logic in this but there you have it....The gods have spoken!

We have 1 less line that we can play with...Oh well.

Back to the drawing board.

[Mmmm]

I have created a flyspray task for this patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5891

Please post comments in the patch tracker supporting this idea if you agree with it and actually even if you don't

I have also included the patch in the REP so you can try it out in that if you like (or in the build in my sig)