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Offline catstevecam

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2006, 12:47:21 PM »
Really looking forward to testing WAV recording on the JBR - I've been using an iRiver H120 purely for that - and would be very happy to return to the ease of use of the Rockbox interface.
Many thanks to you all for the effort and willingness to share skills and time. Appreciated.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2006, 12:50:40 PM »
Umm... the iRiver H120 has Rockbox. Is the interface for Rockbox on the Archos Recorder specifically very different?
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Offline ta

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2006, 08:05:05 PM »
GREAT!!
 8)
We owners of the old AJR have not been forgotten! :)

Is the playback plug in already included in the daily builds?

I think a Rockbox implementation would not be complete without wave support on the original platform after you've got the specs. The whole AJR community has been waiting so long for those data sheets, it would have been a pity if the developer team hadn't used them in the end for such a long desired feature. ;)

THANX!
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Offline kupietz

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2006, 08:47:58 PM »
Oh, wow, I've been away from the rockbox community for a while while my jbr was temporarily dead... news of work on lossless recording is a pleasant thing to come back to! Wish I had the skills to help myself, but I just wanted to post a note of support and thanks for the folks working on this long-awaited feature.

Thanks,
Mike
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Offline jbills

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2006, 08:17:24 PM »
I don't have anything new to add - but I'd just like to add another bump of support for the possible WAV recording plugin.  Wow, that would make an already awesome system that much better!

I love my JBR's recording functions under rockbox - as anyone who does this sort of thing a lot, I do a lot of editing of my recordings after the fact.  having an uncompressed WAV/pcm source would really help me out and be a huge boost to the functionality of the archos as a recorder.  Not to mention being a big coding acheivement by squeezing WAVs out of that chip, which was never intended! 

Rockbox really rocks.  I wish I was a coder, I'd jump in!  Maybe it'll inspire me to start learning...

Please keep us posted on any WAV rec progress...    drooling...  at...  the...  possibilities.   ;D
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Offline LoveLearn

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2006, 05:33:38 PM »
These comments may be totally out dated because I've been away from this community since the end of 2003. But a feature I wanted much more than lossless recording was changing playback speed while maintaining constant pitch. This time slicing and reintegration technique has been available in some devices for at least 20 years. I know that because I owned one that long ago. For lectures and spoken language listening it was great. University use studies indicated that listener content retention significantly increased with faster playback on many recordings. They speculated that listeners become bored by slow-speakers so by speeding up their playback, listener interest became more sustainable. Plus the fact that listening time per recording is reduced so you can learn more per unit time.

As I recall, this capability was supposed to be available in Archos board chips but lack of access to information about how to use that capability had prevented RockBox developers from enabling it for Archos owners. Does release of this long-sought information change that situation so we may have constant frequency variable rate playback added?


Funny that this forum management software shows me to be a "newbie" yet it recognized my user name and password which have been in my browser memory files since my previous posts years ago. Like Archos, it may be showing symptoms of insufficient buffer space. Even if limiting the search space to prevent excessive search times, this still seems strange.

John

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Offline ta

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2006, 01:30:49 PM »
BTW: I think "lossless recording and playback on the AJR !" should not be forgotten in the news of the start page and in the feature comparison list Archos OS vs Rockbox. ;)
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Offline Febs

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2006, 06:09:22 PM »
Well, the feature comparison is a wiki.  Feel free to edit it.
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Offline catstevecam

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2006, 05:51:50 AM »
I'd like to add my vote for JBR lossless recording - I currently convert JBR mp3 files to WAV for editing - then back to mp3 for daily use. Having lossless would improve the quality of my source files - and hopefully be audible on the finished mp3 result.

Thanks to everyone who contributes to Rockbox development - I look forward to the next full 'official' release.
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Offline ta

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2006, 06:30:03 PM »
Quote from: Febs on June 22, 2006, 06:09:22 PM
Well, the feature comparison is a wiki.  Feel free to edit it.

I'm talking about the official feature list which exists somewhere on rockbox.org. The one with the red and green coloured comparison tab.  ;)

That page: http://www.rockbox.org/docs/features.html
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Offline Christoph

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2006, 03:10:01 PM »
It seems that quite a few people are interested in this feature...

Now that this important topic already went to page [2] of the Archos Jukebox Recorders section :-[, it's to write a post to keep it on page [1]!  ;D

Are there any news about your WAV recording plugin, Jörg?

Regards,
Christoph
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Offline [IDC]Dragon

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2006, 10:53:41 AM »
Plans yes, but no priority nor time. I have so much other stuff todo, and when I don't I'd like to relax a bit. I don't even know where my Archos is. (Although it's still my #1 player, I don't have any of these newer platform models)
After devcon, I gave it a quick try, but no data was coming out of it.
Maybe winter time helps.

Jörg
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Offline Christoph

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2006, 05:15:13 PM »
Jörg, ain't the weather we have currently in Germany enough of "winter time" to give the WAV recording plugin another try? ;)

Christoph
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Offline jbills

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2007, 01:59:19 AM »
Hi - was just checking in on this and noticed that on the new features list:

DONE 2007-05-19: WAV recording working as a plugin on Archos (Recorder V1, V2, FM and Ondio FM).

however, I can't find any documentation on this plugin, nor can I find it in the list?  have searched high and low.  Anyone have any links or info?  (maybe I'm just dense)
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Offline pixelma

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Re: Jukebox Recorder 20 record in lossless?
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2007, 04:21:54 AM »
Pitily this plugin is not yet documented (hopefully to be changed soon).

If you have the latest current build, i.e. at least after the plugin reordering, you should find it if you browse:
Plugins > Applications > wavrecord.

The plugin itself is quite self-explanatory, just set the options in the list, then chose "start recording", stop as everywhere...
Edit: And I forgot to mention that the wav files will automatically be stored in a "recording" directory  which will be created if not existent yet.
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