Support and General Use > User Interface and Voice
Menu reworking
Llorean:
Choosing to go to the recording screen or the FM radio from the menu both have functions. Displaying the WPS is pointless if music isn't already playing, and if music *is* already playing (or you want to resume playback) you just press Play in the filetree (and probably soon the same button in the menu) to resume playback and show the WPS.
If there's already a one-button solution to get to the WPS, why have a menu item as well?
Yotto:
--- Quote from: aliask on August 17, 2006, 01:47:18 AM ---@Yotto:
Some people seem to use the Sound Settings menu a lot - and don't even want it moved from the top-level menu - so clearly it does get used by some people. The least I can do it leave it at the top so they don't whinge too much ;)
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Sorry, I said "Sound" where I meant "Volume"
--- Quote from: Llorean on August 17, 2006, 03:41:24 AM ---If there's already a one-button solution to get to the WPS, why have a menu item as well?
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Well, they do it for volume... :D
However, a limited amount of redundancy isn't a bad thing, and we'd finally be able to see all those fancy "stop" graphics we've been drawing.
The ideal in my mind would be customizable menus, which were actually simple text files or a directory structure (Like Windows does it). Have some "Administrator" menu options that you can't change, including a "Reset to defaults" for if we screw it up, but other than that, let the user do whatever he/she wants.
Llorean:
In response to the Yotto regarding the volume setting:
In the case of someone wanting to make sure the volume is at a safe level before starting playback, or set volume for a plugin (Doom, Rockboy) the volume menu serves a purpose. Going to the WPS without resuming the music is, in a practical sense, useless.
aliask:
@Yotto:
While I too think that the volume setting is mostly redundant for my uses, I'm reluctant to completely remove settings unless there is a big push for it, just in case one person out there does actually use it.
I also think that customizable menus wouldn't be nice, but it would be difficult to manage. If the file gets accidentally deleted, blanked or corrupted, I can imagine people having a hard time with it.
In addition to that, coding it would be a bitch, I can't even begin to think how I'd manage it, but then again, I'm not a very experienced programmer.
I've made a patch which I've attached to the Wiki page that changes the menu's to how they are in the Wiki. Nothing like actually seeing what it's like to use.
Yotto:
--- Quote from: Llorean on August 17, 2006, 04:10:18 AM ---In response to the Yotto regarding the volume setting:
In the case of someone wanting to make sure the volume is at a safe level before starting playback, or set volume for a plugin (Doom, Rockboy) the volume menu serves a purpose. Going to the WPS without resuming the music is, in a practical sense, useless.
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That is two uses for the control that I never considered. I currently, if I'm worried about the volume, check the dB level when the WPS starts and take advantage of the scroll wheel causing playback to stop to lower the volume before I hear a thing. It's probably a bad habit to get into, if the scrollwheel thing gets fixed I'll have a rude awakening.
But now that I can see that there /is/ a reason for it, I'll get off the "delete it" kick. And as that use could make volume the most used option in the sound menu, I'll even get off my "move it" kick.
One last kick to get me off of :D is the "Playlist" first before "Sound", as I personally use the "Playlist" option (And the "Reshuffle within it, which is last instead of first) all the time and the "Sound" option never. It'd be nice to just hit 'select' twice to reshuffle the playlist, or 'select', scroll to the bottom (which is actually pretty easy, at least on the ipod) and 'select' again to reshuffle isn't bad
And I'm starting to "View Current Playlist" more and more, and that's option #1 currently.
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