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Suggestion for unified button mapping for all iriver remotes.
Davide-NYC:
I still think my suggestion for changing the button mapping in the WRS is valid.
In the WRS:
* UP/DOWN = 'select item' (same as on main unit)
* LEFT/RIGHT = 'adjust value' (same as on main unit)
* HOLD DOWN turns off the remote's display
* HOLD UP turns on the remote's display
If it's possible to check the state of the remote LCD (on or off) before changing selection (up/down) the user could even be returned to the exact state they were at before turning on/of the remote LCD!
This also leaves the -10/+10 buttons free for whatever else someone dreams up.
Please remember that in this instance I'm just talking about the WRS on the H300LCD remote.
Right now the remote buttons in WRS are quite mis-mapped.
Mmmm:
--- Quote from: Davide-NYC on August 19, 2006, 09:58:36 PM ---I still think my suggestion for changing the button mapping in the WRS is valid.
In the WRS:
* UP/DOWN = 'select item' (same as on main unit)
* LEFT/RIGHT = 'adjust value' (same as on main unit)
* HOLD DOWN turns off the remote's display
* HOLD UP turns on the remote's display
--- End quote ---
The only problem with this would be that it would be very easy to accidently turn on/off the display by just holding up/down a bit too long whilst changing the settings.
--- Quote ---If it's possible to check the state of the remote LCD (on or off) before changing selection (up/down) the user could even be returned to the exact state they were at before turning on/of the remote LCD!
--- End quote ---
I'm not sure what you are saying here... If you are saying what I think you are saying then this would mean that any changes you made after switching the LCD would be lost when you switched it again. Is that right? If so, why would you want that?
--- Quote ---Right now the remote buttons in WRS are quite mis-mapped.
--- End quote ---
The remote screen isn't updated to the new button action code yet so don't worry. I've actually finished the code for the H1/3xx but I've got to do mappings for the other recording targets before it'll work without breaking everything else (also I'm not sure if JdGordon is fixing this too..I need to talk to him first).
Davide-NYC:
--- Quote ---The only problem with this would be that it would be very easy to accidently turn on/off the display by just holding up/down a bit too long whilst changing the settings.
--- End quote ---
Not for the UP/DOWN buttons, which only select the next (or previous) item in a list.
UP/DOWN should not modify settings, it would just select a different item.
Since the list of items is so small (vol, gainL, gainR, agc) user could do it al with short button presses. A long button press DOWN would turn the LCD off. A long button press UP would turn the LCD back on.
Let me explain the potential problem that I was (feebly) attempting to explain in my other statement about this idea:
--- Quote ---If it's possible to check the state of the remote LCD (on or off) before changing selection (up/down) the user could even be returned to the exact state they were at before turning on/of the remote LCD!
--- End quote ---
Let's say a user want to shut of the RLCD to get rid of ticking.
If a user has Vol selected and then presses and holds the DOWN button I presume two things would happen.
First the selection would change to the next line down (Gain or GainL) then the LCD would shut off. But the user didn't want to select Gain (or GainL) they really just wanted to shut the RLCD off.
Oh wait, but when he presses and holds the UP button the opposite should happen, the selected item should decrement back to Vol and then the LCD should turn on. So in fact we woudn't need any checking code if it would in fact behave this way.
Nevermind, my brain is broken. But I left my ramblings in this post to illustrate what I was getting at in the first place.
Mmmm:
--- Quote from: Davide-NYC on August 20, 2006, 03:34:54 PM ---
--- Quote ---The only problem with this would be that it would be very easy to accidently turn on/off the display by just holding up/down a bit too long whilst changing the settings.
--- End quote ---
Not for the UP/DOWN buttons, which only select the next (or previous) item in a list.
UP/DOWN should not modify settings, it would just select a different item.
Since the list of items is so small (vol, gainL, gainR, agc) user could do it al with short button presses. A long button press DOWN would turn the LCD off. A long button press UP would turn the LCD back on.
--- End quote ---
An example where your suggestion may be a problem
say the lcd is off and you want to move up to the volume, if you press up for just a little too long you will turn the lcd on and ...tick tick tick...a ruined recording. The LCD off button needs to be all on its own so that you cant accidently press it IMO
Davide-NYC:
This is a very good point.
Right now it's very easy to simply brush against the joystick DOWN button and turn on/off the RLCD.
Which was my primary reason for wanting to change it in the first place.
(along with the counter intuitive button layout)
But I never considered wanting to change values *while* recording.
This does pose a bit of a dilemma.
Maybe a key combination would be the best solution for the RLCD on/off feature?
What do we have available? Anything?
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