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Offline LanceUppercut

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Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« on: August 15, 2006, 08:48:02 PM »
Hi Guys, 

Now I'm really confused.  I was having a problem with some of senab's builds, and so I switched back to a conventional build, and it hasn't gone away.  I've tried multiple builds, and I've tried reformatting, i've tried apple's restore utility, I've tried a surface scan, I've tried chkdsk /f, and i'm at the end of my rope.

So,  What happens is every few times I boot up, All my settings are gone.   All my themes, all my fonts, like it's just been reset.  I'm positive i'm not turning the hold button on, and I can't seem to find any kind of action or pattern that causes it to happen.  Just every few times I boot up, it'll be reset.  Any ideas?  I love rockbox and I really would love to get this resolved!

At one point, I was getting corrupt files, and that SEEMS to have stopped upon reinstalling of my bootloader. 

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.  I'm extreamly confused.  I feel like I must be doing something wrong either in the installation process or in practice, but i've read the manual very carefully during both, so if i'm missing something, or mis-understanding something, don't be scared to tell me i'm being dumb.

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Offline Llorean

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2006, 08:50:53 PM »
Have you done a surface scan of your iPod with chkdsk or some equivalent utility?
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Offline LanceUppercut

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2006, 10:22:25 PM »
I did a complete surface scan with Windows XP scandisk, (properties, checkdisk) and with Chkdsk.  Chkdsk only finds corrupt and cross-linked files.  But the scandisk comes up clean. 

Hmm....
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2006, 10:24:04 PM »
My concern is if the settings sector is sometimes becoming corrupt.

Anyway, questions
1) Do you always properly eject your iPod from the computer?
2) Do the clears happen randomly, or only after updating to a new build?
3) Do you always shut down your iPod properly, or do you let it idle off or use Menu+Select instead?
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Offline fatherfork

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2006, 01:14:20 AM »
Quote from: Llorean on August 15, 2006, 10:24:04 PM
3) Do you always shut down your iPod properly, or do you let it idle off or use Menu+Select instead?

Llorean, is letting it idle off worse or different from shutting it down normally?

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Offline Llorean

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2006, 01:17:39 AM »
I believe that the idle power down may not properly save settings on the iPod at the moment. I'm not wholly sure, but I remember there were some bugs relating to it.
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Offline fatherfork

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2006, 01:22:59 AM »
Quote from: Llorean on August 16, 2006, 01:17:39 AM
I believe that the idle power down may not properly save settings on the iPod at the moment.

Good to know.

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Offline Llorean

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2006, 01:23:53 AM »
If I recall, it doesn't go through the same powerdown process, but I'm not *wholly* certain of this.
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Offline fatherfork

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2006, 01:24:46 AM »
Quote from: Llorean on August 16, 2006, 01:23:53 AM
If I recall, it doesn't go through the same powerdown process, but I'm not *wholly* certain of this.

Better safe...

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Offline LanceUppercut

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2006, 02:21:51 AM »
Lorean,

The reset happens COMPLETELY randomly from what I can tell.  At least, I've tried to figure out what I do before I shutdown, and I can't find a pattern or setting that makes it happen.  I'm still trying more builds, but I've tried senab's expermental builds, and the latest conventional build so far, and both with the same results.  I'll try and older one tonight, and see what happens.

I shut it down properly every time, (holding play, right?).  I'll set a theme, then I'll shut it down and boot it up about 3 times or so, about 3 min. apart, and within that period of time, it resets. 

SO CONFUSED!!!???!!!

Thanks guys.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2006, 02:26:17 AM »
It sounds like it's just a bug. If you can figure out any consistent way to make it happen, it'd be very helpful. I'd suggest also filing a bug report, and putting any new information you find for reproducing it there.
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Offline LanceUppercut

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2006, 04:12:06 AM »
Will do, lorean.

I wish I could give more info, but it's so completely consistant, yet random, if that makes sense.  I'll try and find anything triggering it, but it seems like it just happens!

Thanks for the help guys!

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Offline Febs

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2006, 08:01:39 AM »
For what it's worth, I never experience this issue on my 5G.  So if you can figure out how to reproduce it, I'll try to replicate it on my iPod.
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Offline fatherfork

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2006, 10:17:47 AM »
I have had this happen to me a couple of times randomly. Maybe once every couple of days. It doesn't coincide with an update or anything, Like Lance said, it just happens.

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Offline RonH

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Re: Rockbox 5G Settings Problem
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2006, 01:58:04 PM »
Thought I'd register and confirm that this is a problem on my end as well (60g iPod, 5g).  It didn't happen as much in the beginning, but now seems to happen more and more.  Can't attribute it to anything, totally random.

BTW, Rockbox is awesome, keep up the great work ! (I didn't hear about it until I converted my CD collection to AAC - wanted equalizer, crossfade, volume --- 2 out of 3 ain't bad). 
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