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Mikerman:
Making a suggestion  ( ;) ), I always appreciate when the keystrokes can be done one-handed.  Otherwise, they often get to be awkward and not at all do-able when driving, while exercising, etc.  This is a major handicap, it seems to me, with the current A-B looping option--I love its capabilities but just wish that the feature could be done one-handed, such as through the use of the REC button.  Perhaps that is one of the matters being considered for the key-reassignment process.

Llorean:
You've yet to offer a suggestion that doesn't decrease its functionality though.

Mikerman:
Actually, I have:  allow the A-B looping initially to be set by use of the REC button, and allow the A and B positions to be moved by the same button assignments as at present once A-B are set (that is, by play + left/right)--that way, everything is the same except for the initial setting of the loop, which is done in one-handed and simple fashion by a quick press of the REC button alone.  Presumably, then, a further quick REC press could turn the feature off.  All without further having to separately set the repeat option to A-B looping.

Llorean:
The problem with that is that now you're using one button and two button combos for what is a relatively minor combo. The solution shouldn't simply be "Add another button to do it the other way" as that doesn't really solve anything. It's just one less button that can be used for other things.

Mikerman:
But the fact of the matter is that it (the REC button) isn't being used for other things now.  And if it would be deemed more economical, REC + left/right could be used to move the A-B positioning in place of PLAY + left/right (actually, that would make more sense in my scheme).  This would make the system more approachable and, hence, usable, which seems to be valuable in and of itself--that is a solution.

These 2-handed button assignments are cumbersome, and impede use.  I can't state numbers, but I've read of at least one recent user who keeps the iRiver firmware around for (at least partly) the A-B ease-of-use looping reason.

And by the way, in the current system, one must first set A-B looping in the A-B quick screen, and then set the left and right points thru the 2-handed system--that's 4 clicks.  The proposed embodiment brings that down to 2 easier presses.  But you're right, the REC button gets involved.  For the ease of use and absent other needs, that seems a fair use.

(Please note that I state all this in ignorance of the workings of the other players.)

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