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Hifiman HM-801: Newer builds became unstable. Can I help?

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HungryDaze:
Good day! I was advised in the chat that I should create a new topic here. I have a Hifiman HM-801 and would very much like to be your beta tester. I recently updated my dual boot build, and it seems that the newer build has more compatibility problems. How can I help? I have a rather sophisticated mod on my device that I value, so I’m very interested in a working Rockbox build. Where should I discuss these matters? I also have quite a few friends who would also benefit from this. This effort wouldn’t be just for my sake.

I often encounter these errors when I try to play a file shortly after turning on the player:

https://disk.yandex.ru/i/gbBMgh3kvUlxlg
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/PZBaRVNC0fYrPA

Additionally, the player randomly freezes now. :(

I have an old build without the Auto frequency setting, but it is much more stable.

I would greatly appreciate your help.

speachy:

--- Quote from: HungryDaze on February 22, 2025, 03:45:17 PM ---Good day! I was advised in the chat that I should create a new topic here. I have a Hifiman HM-801 and would very much like to be your beta tester. I recently updated my dual boot build, and it seems that the newer build has more compatibility problems. How can I help? I have a rather sophisticated mod on my device that I value, so I’m very interested in a working Rockbox build.

I have an old build without the Auto frequency setting, but it is much more stable.


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What version/build did you update from?   (BTW, as far as I'm aware you're the first person to speak up about an HM801 in many, many years)


--- Quote from: HungryDaze on February 22, 2025, 03:45:17 PM ---I often encounter these errors when I try to play a file shortly after turning on the player:
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/gbBMgh3kvUlxlg
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/PZBaRVNC0fYrPA

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This sounds like some massive memory corruption is going on.

One thing I'd recommend trying is starting over with a pristine .rockbox directory, and see if you still have these problems.

HungryDaze:
Thank you for your reply!


--- Quote from: speachy on February 22, 2025, 08:11:38 PM ---One thing I'd recommend trying is starting over with a pristine .rockbox directory, and see if you still have these problems.

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Thank you! I did this, and it works fine for now. I will test and provide feedback.


--- Quote from: speachy on February 22, 2025, 08:11:38 PM ---What version/build did you update from?

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Here is my old build. I made it many years ago. Is there a file there that will tell you the build version?
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/VQhk0mLzg6R6zw

And the reason I’m the first one in years is because HM-801 is still valued in Russia thanks to a talented engineer who modified it. So there are still satisfied owners. They are not participating in discussions because of the language barrier.

speachy:

--- Quote from: HungryDaze on February 23, 2025, 05:52:18 AM ---Thank you! I did this, and it works fine for now. I will test and provide feedback.

Here is my old build. I made it many years ago. Is there a file there that will tell you the build version?
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/VQhk0mLzg6R6zw

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.rockbox/rockbox-info.txt

In this case it shows it's a daily build from 2014-04-14, ie nearly 11 years old (and precedes the last *two* releases!)

My initial guess is that your crash was due to changes in on-disk database format, but as you re-customize the settings etc to your liking if you encounter another crash then please report that, making note of exactly what settings/etc you changed.


--- Quote from: HungryDaze on February 23, 2025, 05:52:18 AM ---And the reason I’m the first one in years is because HM-801 is still valued in Russia thanks to a talented engineer who modified it. So there are still satisfied owners. They are not participating in discussions because of the language barrier.

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That's understandable -- but folks that don't participate in some way get left out entirely. 

Over four years ago we put out a call for testers after we performed a major toolchain upgrade that uncovered numerous bugs (including failures-to-boot).  Plenty of folks with ipods and sansas reported varying degrees of success but we had no reports for over half of the players our codebase supports.  I started using donated funds to purchase some of of devices (including an HM-601) to fill in some of the gaps, but as far as we are aware, a significant portion of the devices (even on the "stable" list!) still remain untested, or at least unreported as working.

HungryDaze:

--- Quote from: speachy on February 23, 2025, 08:00:42 AM ---In this case it shows it's a daily build from 2014-04-14, ie nearly 11 years old (and precedes the last *two* releases!)

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Yes, it's old. :D I'm glad to see that Auto frequency has been added!


--- Quote from: speachy on February 23, 2025, 08:00:42 AM ---My initial guess is that your crash was due to changes in on-disk database format, but as you re-customize the settings etc to your liking if you encounter another crash then please report that, making note of exactly what settings/etc you changed.

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May be. I tried many different settings. I could have easily messed up smth. I will report back after comprehensive tests.


--- Quote from: speachy on February 23, 2025, 08:00:42 AM ---I started using donated funds to purchase some of of devices (including an HM-601) to fill in some of the gaps, but as far as we are aware, a significant portion of the devices (even on the "stable" list!) still remain untested, or at least unreported as working.

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Thank you for your work! Much appreciated. I think that Russians can test all of the old Hifimans easily. I think that I can make it happen.

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