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Offline robert_w

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesiton)
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2006, 11:11:13 AM »
It's a pity!  :(
I have spent over a month on looking for a recording equipment, analyzed Marantz, Tascam, Fostex models, microtrack, pdaudio and finally I have come here. It looked realy nice. I was going to buy a denecke ad20 and ihp120d as a sound recorder but now I am far and far away from this concept. The second alternative - a minidisc recorder is a 'blind way' for me. It is realy the time to start  playing with memory card recorder (and spend much more money)...

Goodluck Iriver Users!
Robert
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Offline robert_w

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesiton)
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2006, 11:15:44 AM »
I have forgotten to add that ROCKBOX is a very good idea and probably other functions  work perfect. I understand that HW modifications are out of sight of this project  (yet? ;)

Enjoy!
Robert
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Offline AGI

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesiton)
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2006, 03:53:33 PM »
robert,

I'm using the 120 for taping both as a stand alone unit and with an Edirol UA5 as a preamp & a/d connected to the optical in. I'm more than happy with it.

afaik none of the recorders you mentioned has a remote, so what is your concern with the h120?

the h120 is a wonderful little machine, just don't use the remote when recording.

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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesit
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2006, 04:21:22 PM »
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I was going to buy a denecke ad20 and ihp120d as a sound recorder but now I am far and far away from this concept.

You are making false assumptions. Read on...

The denecke ad20 has an optical spidf digital out.
The LCD remote causes no ticking whatsoever during digital recording. None.

I would also remind everyone that the ticking is generally totally inaudible except when cranking the gain WAY UP. You'd hear it if you where trying to record cockroaches screwing or some other such low DB source material through the line input and didn't have an external micpre.

iRiver H1xx plus Rockbox plud external mic-pre/ADC/battery-box plus good mics is the best remote recording (stealth) rig on the market for my money.

Basically, the iRiver is not a pro or even semi-pro recording device without an external mic-pre/ADC, but with a good pre it does a great job.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2006, 05:02:27 PM by Davide-NYC »
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Offline jlo

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesit
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2006, 04:27:01 PM »
I also use a h140 with optical input coming from Edirol UA5 (modified as standalone) and B&K4006. I'm very happy to record mostly classical music. I just conservatively set up the recording level and it stays so for the 2 hours of recording : no need for the remote and so no ticking risk.
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Offline robert_w

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesiton)
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2006, 04:16:00 AM »
Thanks Colleagues for your clarification!:)
I thougth ticking occurs always. I am convinced to Iriver now :)

Have a nice day!
Robert
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesiton)
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2006, 08:27:27 AM »
OK, I've had one for (llorean) and one against(davide) for the lcd off button on the remote.

Just to point out what this would mean:

  • You will be able to set up the recording levels with the remote prior to the concert and then switch the remote lcd off for actual recording.
  • You can switch it back on at any time
  • While recording with the remote lcd off, all buttons on the remote still work (so pausing, track split etc are still usable from the remote) without any interference
  • The cliplight will also work on the remote with the lcd off (but there will be a slight blip in the recording when it comes on and another when it goes off)

The alternative is remote on and low constant interference or no remote plugged in at all and no remote buttons or clip light or stealth setting up or anything else.

Hmm I think I just convinced myself on this one. You gain remote buttons with no interference with this feature and use of the remote before and after the recording but you lose nothing. So therefore it must be good right?

Anyone else got any opinions?
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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesit
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2006, 05:12:11 PM »
You have just convinced me as well.

Point: If you're clipping anyways what a little blip in the audio? You're clipping!

Davide-NYC
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Offline Llorean

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesiton)
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2006, 05:25:21 PM »
That was my thought on the clipping issue as well.

I think the real key here is picking the right button / interface for this. Would be better as an option that has to be enabled first, like A-B repeat for playback, and only then does the button function, so new users don't accidentally lock the screen and confuse themselves?
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesiton)
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2006, 08:58:25 AM »
OK, It's in....download a bleeding edge and give it a go.... :)
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Offline whatboutbob

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesit
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2006, 11:17:55 AM »
Hmm...interesting work-around.  I quit using the remote in situations where I need more than about 20dB gain from the iriver because of that damn tick.

I'm not sure that I'll make use of this functionality though.  I'm too much of a control freak to fly blind on levels.

...perhaps if remote lcd updates were limited to monitor only peak levels?  So you would still know where you're peaking (not just when you're clipping)...but get minimal ticking.  Of course I've no idea if this is possible. :)

Hrmm...but the max peak hold time is only 1 min...so maybe that won't work.  If it were maybe 5 mins then maybe it would.  Theoretically you then just get a quick tick at the loudest point of a recording, when you're least likely to hear it...but still have some idea how close to clipping you are...
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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: [feature request] LCD-Remote Reduce Ticking *DURING RECORDING* (was a quesit
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2006, 04:48:05 PM »
I'm closing this thread since the problem has been solved by Mmmm.
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