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Offline Zakalwe

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Sansa e200v2 (e280v2): file transfer problems in Rockbox, works in OF
« on: June 04, 2025, 02:40:39 AM »
(I had an earlier thread on this, but the info I had there was misleading.)

I have a Sansa e280v2. When running Rockbox, transferring files to the player via USB will fail after a while, typically after 120MB give or take, but I have managed up to 700MB once. The player seems to unmount from the computer, or it still shows up but as empty, and I have to unplug and reconnect.
This does not happen when booted into the original Sansa firmware.

It makes no difference whether I write to the internal 8GB or a microSD card.
Rockbox versions: I have tried recent dev builds, 4.0, 3.15, and a number of older builds down to 3.7.1, all have the same issue.
I have tried this on several computers, with Ubuntu, Mint, and Windows.

I am puzzled by how it works with the OF, which indicates that it is not a hardware fault. I mean, if it is random I guess in theory the OF might fail after a while as well, but I have transferred 60,000 files/500GB in one go with the OF, without error, so it seems unlikely given how early Rockbox fails. For what it is worth, file transfers in the OF are also a bit faster (3.9MB/s vs 3MB/s in RB).

Is this expected behaviour? The device status page says USB works on the e200v2.

I can use the OF for file transfers, but it has that pesky database refresh that I cannot avoid entirely - I can force-turn off the player after the transfer to interrupt the refresh, but next time I boot it into the OF it will refresh (for hours...). Is there some way to get around this? Then I could "live" with the situation. 
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Offline bahus

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Re: Sansa e200v2 (e280v2): file transfer problems in Rockbox, works in OF
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2025, 05:03:23 AM »
Yes, I can confirm that USB is unstable with my e200v2 in rockbox and works fine in OF. Though, it doesn’t bother me much—I simply use a USB 3.0 card reader for file transfers to my SD card, which provides reliable 50+ MB/s write speed. I also avoid using the internal memory to minimize flash wear.


What does bother me - unstable writes on SD card by rockbox itself. Does it work reliably for you? Can you for instance copy/paste inside rockbox some big amount (500Mb+) of data on your SD card. In my case e200v2 crashed with 100% certainty. And sometime crashed even on bookmark creation. I was able to fix it in my custom build but I wonder if it's a general issue or some specific quirk with my device (I had to unboost cpu in case of write errors)
« Last Edit: June 04, 2025, 05:41:12 AM by bahus »
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Offline Zakalwe

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Re: Sansa e200v2 (e280v2): file transfer problems in Rockbox, works in OF
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2025, 06:08:44 AM »
Quote from: bahus on June 04, 2025, 05:03:23 AM
Yes, I can confirm that USB is unstable with my e200v2 in rockbox and works fine in OF. Though, it doesn’t bother me much—I simply use a USB 3.0 card reader for file transfers to my SD card, which provides reliable 50+ MB/s write speed. I also avoid using the internal memory to minimize flash wear.

Thanks, good to hear that it does not look like something that is just messed up on my side. :) I also use a dedicated card reader for larger transfers, but I often do smaller changes (new albums), so in principle I would find it convenient to be able to do this directly in the device. It is not a "dealbreaker", but if anyone happens to know a way to fix the issue, that would be neat.

Agreed on avoiding the internal memory, I only really tested it there to rule out that it was exclusively an SD card issue.

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What does bother me - unstable writes on SD card by rockbox itself. Does it work reliably for you? Can you for instance copy/paste inside rockbox some big amount (500Mb+) of data on your SD card. In my case e200v2 crashed with 100% certainty. And sometime crashed even on bookmark creation. I was able to fix it in my custom build but I wonder if it's a general issue or some specific quirk with my device (I had to unboost cpu in case of write errors)

Oh, I am a rather basic user it seems, I had not even noticed there were copy/paste capabilities in Rockbox. But I will test this and get back to you.
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Offline Zakalwe

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Re: Sansa e200v2 (e280v2): file transfer problems in Rockbox, works in OF
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2025, 01:32:41 AM »
Quote from: bahus on June 04, 2025, 05:03:23 AM
What does bother me - unstable writes on SD card by rockbox itself. Does it work reliably for you? Can you for instance copy/paste inside rockbox some big amount (500Mb+) of data on your SD card.

Oddly enough that seemed to work alright for me. I copied around some 1.1GB, testing different directions (SD->SD, SD->internal, internal->SD), no crashing. Now that I think of it, it was a folder of mp3s, i.e. small files - I will try with some big file as well.
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Re: Sansa e200v2 (e280v2): file transfer problems in Rockbox, works in OF
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2025, 02:08:41 AM »
Quote from: Zakalwe on June 06, 2025, 01:32:41 AM
Oddly enough that seemed to work alright for me.

Just means it's some hardware issue in my unit. No need in further testing - filesize doesn't matter. Thanks for testing!
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