Shanling Q1

[mambo5king]

I tried out Rockbox (for the second time) on my Q1 last night.  When I try to restore the OF, I get the Shanling splash screen and then a message "Update Failed".  I also tried restoring the backed up shanling bootloader but that leaves it completely inoperative (I can't even do the PREV/NEXT Power button reset).  I have to reinstall the rockbox bootloader just to get it to attempt the reset.

As I said, this is the second time I've tried out rockbox and my reset the first time worked flawlessly so I'm not sure what's different.

If anyone has any ideas on what I could try to restore the original firmware, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Kevin

[7o9]

There should not be more than to extract the Shanling firmware to the sd card and reboot to let it update.

Or shut down the player. Hold the 'previous' button while turning it on again to boot the Shanling firmware and select 'System update' from the 'System' menu.

[amachronic]

I tried out Rockbox (for the second time) on my Q1 last night.  When I try to restore the OF, I get the Shanling splash screen and then a message "Update Failed".  I also tried restoring the backed up shanling bootloader but that leaves it completely inoperative (I can't even do the PREV/NEXT Power button reset).  I have to reinstall the rockbox bootloader just to get it to attempt the reset.

As I said, this is the second time I've tried out rockbox and my reset the first time worked flawlessly so I'm not sure what's different.

If anyone has any ideas on what I could try to restore the original firmware, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Kevin

It might have something to do with installing different Shanling firmware versions in between flashing the RB bootloader. I'm guessing when you originally installed rockbox and took a bootloader backup you had one firmware version, and now you're trying to install a different version? Maybe you could try installing the version you had when you first installed RB and see if that works.

The bootloader backup on the Q1 isn't a complete backup of the Q1's original bootloader. What might be happening is you're restoring an old version of the bootloader, but you have a newer flashed version, and the result is an unusable mess. In other words your bootloader backup is only usable with the firmware version that you had when you made the backup.

That's an annoying problem I overlooked. Ah well. I'll have to make a note of it on the wiki, as it's not something I can fix quickly.

[mambo5king]

It might have something to do with installing different Shanling firmware versions in between flashing the RB bootloader. I'm guessing when you originally installed rockbox and took a bootloader backup you had one firmware version, and now you're trying to install a different version? Maybe you could try installing the version you had when you first installed RB and see if that works.

The bootloader backup on the Q1 isn't a complete backup of the Q1's original bootloader. What might be happening is you're restoring an old version of the bootloader, but you have a newer flashed version, and the result is an unusable mess. In other words your bootloader backup is only usable with the firmware version that you had when you made the backup.

That's an annoying problem I overlooked. Ah well. I'll have to make a note of it on the wiki, as it's not something I can fix quickly.

I believe I've always been on 2.2.  I tried other versions of the firmware 1.2 and 1.4 also.  Maybe, in the end, it's a blessing.  After being forced to live with rockbox I'm starting to appreciate it more.  In fact, the only thing that made me give up on rockbox was the invisible 3x3 touchscreen grid.  I can never seem to remember where to touch.  The more I use it, the more I'll get used to it I guess.

Thanks for taking the time to respond 

[mambo5king]

One other nugget of information.  If I do the PREV+NEXT+POWER reset without the sd card inserted, I get exactly the same result.  Splash screen followed by Update Failed.

[7o9]

In fact, the only thing that made me give up on rockbox was the invisible 3x3 touchscreen grid.  I can never seem to remember where to touch.  The more I use it, the more I'll get used to it I guess.

Turn on 'absolute point' mode in the settings so you can use it like a normal touchscreen.

[7o9]

One other nugget of information.  If I do the PREV+NEXT+POWER reset without the sd card inserted, I get exactly the same result.  Splash screen followed by Update Failed.

So that does not mean anything? You can only update with a firmware file on the sd card.

Makes me suspect you might have done something wrong putting the firmware on the sd card.

Anyway, Rockbox is 'multiboot', you can still boot the Shanling firmware by holding PREV while turning on the device. So you can have it both ways.

[mambo5king]

So that does not mean anything? You can only update with a firmware file on the sd card.

Makes me suspect you might have done something wrong putting the firmware on the sd card.

Anyway, Rockbox is 'multiboot', you can still boot the Shanling firmware by holding PREV while turning on the device. So you can have it both ways.

I mentioned it because it acts the same way whether a card is inserted or not.  Which leads me to believe the problem is occurring before it even attempts to read the card. 
Multiboot doesn't work either.  I get the Shanling splash screen and then it boots into rockbox.

Are the various BUTTON+POWER combinations a rockbox thing or are they built into the Q1?

FYI here's the splash screen: https://photos.app.goo.gl/6xjck1yjtAwJNVAi9
and here's the update failed: https://photos.app.goo.gl/DbSEm6LDuVMa1yhS6

[7o9]

They are part of the Rockbox bootloader.

Weird that booting into the Shanling firmware does not work.

I wonder if a backup from another 2.2 device would help you.

[SlyDude]

First of all, thanks for investing time and effort for the Q1 Port to all involved! I got the player as a bluetooth/sd card alternative to my stash of several Sandisk Sansa Clip Zip's. I'm eager to try it, but the main reason I'd switch to using the Q1 would be being able to use it with BT earbuds. Taking into consideration what Amachronic said in the first post (quoted below), did I understand correctly that currently BT connectivity to headphones isn't supported and is this still the case?

Thanks!

...The main downside with a native port is that wifi/bluetooth will probably never work in Rockbox...

[7o9]

.. did I understand correctly that currently BT connectivity to headphones isn't supported and is this still the case?

Yes, no BT at all.

[illegalval]

A question regarding themes: when i want to save an eq preset, for example, the page where i can name the preset is just small black text on a white background, and uses the 3x3 touch-mode. Is it possible to make this page more usable with a theme, or is it just a limitation of the touch interface?

[mambo5king]

They are part of the Rockbox bootloader.

Weird that booting into the Shanling firmware does not work.

I wonder if a backup from another 2.2 device would help you.

Does anyone have a backup from a 2.2 device that they could send me?

[illegalval]

Does anyone have a backup from a 2.2 device that they could send me?

I've got one, i'll send you a wetransfer link!

[illegalval]

I'll send it tonight, it's on my other laptop