Shanling Q1

[7o9]

The manual understandably is very generic so some pointers:

- Rockbox Utility support or a release build do not exist yet, you need a 'dev build' from the link on the top left of the Rockbox site.
- Make sure your sd card is fat32. exfat will not work.
- Windows users need to install 'Zadig' for direct usb access support.
- Put the bootloader.q1 file on your sd card before running jztool, you need to install it from the bootloader menu launched by jztool.
- You can get additional fonts here: https://www.rockbox.org/download/byhand.cgi (it does not matter the q1 is not listed, the fonts are the same for all players so pick any).

After succesfully installing, I really recommend turning on the 'Absolute Point' touchscreen mode so you can select items directly in the menus and file lists instead of using 3x3 mode.

'Touchscreen mode' is burried in General Settings -> Display -> Touchscreen Settings.

[sadur]

Hi.
I'm writing to this thread because I'm a lucky new owner of this beautiful little player (I have an iPod Video with rockbox since 2006, but it has broken ).
I'm installed rockbox manually on the Q1 without any problems and it is working very well.
I've uploaded a Theme for this player based on the one I've used in iPod for many years.
About this port, the few things I noticed are:
 - There are no battery estimated time.
 - There are no disk activity (in this case the SD card).
 - For me, the height of the menu items it's to big.
 - It would be nice if the keys were locked via the power button, the screen will never turn on, like the hold button in iPod. This will permit to disable the turn on of the screen on track change in case of the buttons locked.
 - It would be nice too if there is an option to activate the "line-out" like in the original firmware, in rockbox the volume has to be adjusted to the maximum level manually (or via a cfg file in shortcuts.txt)
All the previous points are not essential, but would be nice to have it
Finally, thanks for this port!

[amachronic]

Hi.
I'm writing to this thread because I'm a lucky new owner of this beautiful little player (I have an iPod Video with rockbox since 2006, but it has broken ).
I'm installed rockbox manually on the Q1 without any problems and it is working very well.
I've uploaded a Theme for this player based on the one I've used in iPod for many years.

Glad you found it a smooth ride! And thank you for your theme contribution. I think now we're officially up to 4 users   

- There are no battery estimated time.

Known issue, will be fixed eventually. The power management IC used in the X1000 targets is able to report the real-time current consumption and I was hoping to use that to report battery runtime more accurately, based on the actual usage. The Q1's also got a separate, dedicated battery monitor chip which can provide percentage charge & estimated runtime directly, but it's bugged (in multiple ways) and maybe more trouble than its worth if it ends up being no more accurate than Rockbox's estimates.

- There are no disk activity (in this case the SD card).

Sounds like a bug. I'll try to get it fixed soon.

- For me, the height of the menu items it's to big.

Agreed. The height can be changed in General Settings > Display > Touchscreen Settings > Line Padding in Lists. Personally, I use 24px but the default works out to something crazy, like 66 px (it's derived from DPI, poorly). Guess I should fix the broken default.

- It would be nice if the keys were locked via the power button, the screen will never turn on, like the hold button in iPod. This will permit to disable the turn on of the screen on track change in case of the buttons locked.

Keylock is mapped to the power button but you need to configure it in General Settings > System > Advanced Key Lock. For the backlight, you need to go to Display > LCD settings > Backlight exemptions. Also, the keylock only works in the WPS in order to map the power button to 'back' in the menus.

- It would be nice too if there is an option to activate the "line-out" like in the original firmware, in rockbox the volume has to be adjusted to the maximum level manually (or via a cfg file in shortcuts.txt)

Well, it seems the Q1's DAC always outputs via an integrated headphone amp so it doesn't really have a line out in a strict sense. I did determine conclusively that the original firmware merely sets the volume to 100% when you choose line out mode. That's why Rockbox doesn't have a line out mode -- it wouldn't make much sense as you can accomplish the same thing by volume control. But I get why having an easy setting is nice.

[sadur]

Thanks for your quick answer!
I'll check your suggestions and wait for possible bug fixes 

[7o9]

- It would be nice if the keys were locked via the power button, the screen will never turn on, like the hold button in iPod. This will permit to disable the turn on of the screen on track change in case of the buttons locked.

Keylock is mapped to the power button but you need to configure it in General Settings > System > Advanced Key Lock. For the backlight, you need to go to Display > LCD settings > Backlight exemptions. Also, the keylock only works in the WPS in order to map the power button to 'back' in the menus.

I do not think that is an answer to the question.

I have the same request, when Key Lock is on, I would like the screen not to be turned on at all when touched.

Additionally, but this is different, I would like the LCD to be turned off immediately when I turn on Key Lock.

[amachronic]

Disk LED fix is now merged, it was a minor oversight in the driver. For some reason I thought it was handled elsewhere but apparently not.

7o9, are you still experiencing the backlight turning on from touches on recent builds? It should've been fixed by commit 62260aa705. Just double checked it on my end so if you're still getting the problem with the latest build please share steps to reproduce!

[7o9]

You are right, amachronic, that commit seems to help. I was on a build from one or two days before that change.

To get close to what I want, I needed to enable the 'Disable Touch' option under 'Advanced Key Lock'.

Right now I have disabled 'Backlight Exemptions', enabled 'Advanced Key Lock' and have checked the 'Exempt Volume', 'Exempt Play' and 'Exempt Skip' options (for the physical buttons), combined with 'Disable Touch'.

I still do not particularly like the screen turning on when I use those exempted physical buttons but I have not found a way around that.

Thanks!

[sadur]

I've tested the disk activity indicator and works well

[Telehubis]

I really like this player with Rockbox on it.

When it comes to patching; how do I do that? Do I just copy & paste Rockbox newer version folders to the player?

[7o9]

I really like this player with Rockbox on it.

When it comes to patching; how do I do that? Do I just copy & paste Rockbox newer version folders to the player?

Yes, extract the latest dev build to your sd card overwriting the .rockbox folder. Make sure to answer 'Yes' when prompted to overwrite existing files.

[hoklim]

Hey guys! I rockboxed my Q1 yesterday and I must say that I was blown away by how great the result sounds. I find the sound improvement of RB over vanilla FW pretty substantial. Is there an explanation why that might be? Back when I was angry with iBasso players' sound signature changing with every FW release, I had a theory that those Chinese manufacturers are applying some kind of DSP to make everything sound more "audiophile" and only messing things up with it. What is correct explanation however? Or am I just plain wrong in my perception?

Also, I'm sending a small donation, this is really some great work.

[Telehubis]

Sorry abut OT, but why this thread was moved to this forum? Topics for other players remain in the "new ports" and this goes to "general"...

[ecodaw]

Any idea if playing opus files would consume more battery than other formats like ogg or mp3?

[mahen]

Hi !
Oh ! What a surprise ! I used to use Rockbox something like... 15 years back ? More ? Not sure. I used to check every now & then and thought it was dead.
I have no idea why I checked today and... It's incredible, I do have a Q1 and a port has just arrived :-)

I will definitely give it a try if that's safe enough ;-)
The official firmware is really a pain to navigate (IMHO).

Cheers ! And thanks for keeping it alive

[7o9]

I will definitely give it a try if that's safe enough ;-)

No guarantees in life, but Q1 has a built-in recovery USB-mode that you cannot break by installing Rockbox. It should be very safe to install.

I have been using it since it became available and have not seen any problems.