FiiO M3K Install (Native port)

[Frankenpod]

I find windows does that a lot.  I don't _think_ it has anything to do specifically with Rockbox.

Windows seems to have a habit of insisting that a device, or occasionally a file, is 'in use' when it isn't.

[demon_slayer]

I just got the following white screen with the following error message again

*PANIC*
TLB refill handler at 0x800272fc! [0x4]

My rockbox version is 2f71571c0a-220515. It doesn't happen all the time but seems to happen when I eject and remove the USB from the M3K. I am able to turn off the device then reboot back into Rockbox.

I could try reinstalling Rockbox from scratch. What the best method for clean installing Rockbox (including reformatting the SD card) ?

Update
It happened again but with a slightly different message

*PANIC*
TLB refill handler at 0x8007c970! [0x720065]

[amachronic]

I just got the following white screen with the following error message again

*PANIC*
TLB refill handler at 0x800272fc! [0x4]

My rockbox version is 2f71571c0a-220515. It doesn't happen all the time but seems to happen when I eject and remove the USB from the M3K. I am able to turn off the device then reboot back into Rockbox.

I could try reinstalling Rockbox from scratch. What the best method for clean installing Rockbox (including reformatting the SD card) ?

Update
It happened again but with a slightly different message

*PANIC*
TLB refill handler at 0x8007c970! [0x720065]

I can reproduce the first crash by plugging in USB from the file browser and then clicking a file after unplugging. The second crash is probably caused by the same underlying bug. I opened an issue for it on the bug tracker, FS#13352.

Reinstalling rockbox won't help, but you should be able to work around the bug by exiting the file browser and going back to the main menu before you plug in USB.

Just for reference, if you want to do a clean re-install of rockbox for any reason: you only need to delete the entire .rockbox folder and unzip a new build. You don't need to reformat the SD card unless you suspect filesystem corruption.

[demon_slayer]

Thanks for raising a bug! For now I've reverted back to the original FIIO 1.4.5 firmware for now since I like some of it's behaviours and UI experience but it lacks themes which rockbox was awesome for. Hoping to come back to rockbox in the near future

[7o9]

Thanks for raising a bug! For now I've reverted back to the original FIIO 1.4.5 firmware for now since I like some of it's behaviours and UI experience but it lacks themes which rockbox was awesome for. Hoping to come back to rockbox in the near future

What kind of behavioirs of the FiiO firmware do you like? I have never actually used their firmware and went straight to Rockbox.

[demon_slayer]

What kind of behavioirs of the FiiO firmware do you like? I have never actually used their firmware and went straight to Rockbox.

What I like about the FIIO firmware that I didn't see in Rockbox:
- The ability to use the Fast Forward/Rewind buttons to scroll through lists, I found this to be better than relying solely on the scroll touch pad to select songs. It allows much fine grained control when choosing songs. However I noticed that using the fast-forward buttons in Rockbox is great too since it is used to scroll past multiples songs in a large list. From what I've seen the FIIO firmware isn't great for traversing large lists since you have to long press the fast-forward button which scrolls past each song individually. What I would perhaps like to see from Rockbox (if possible) is a toggle in settings to be able to switch between using the fast-forward buttons to either traverse 1 song or traverse multiple when scrolling.
- The ability to use the player as a DAC (granted if you don't use this feature then it's not a biggie, I don't think I'll use it much but it's nice to have the option to use it, I tried using it with listening to SoundCloud songs on my Linux PC and it sounded awesome)
- Visual indicators to distinguish between folders and files (perhaps this is possible in Rockbox but I didn't see it, I mainly use file browsers in the player rather than creating a database so I prefer to see a distinction between files and folders)
- The FIIO firmware gives the user a dialog box when the power button is long-pressed if they want to power off or not (again I'm neither here nor there on this but I think it's nice to have)

What I don't like about the FIIO firmware:
- Album art isn't rendered instantly, it takes a few seconds to appear.
- When viewing files in the file browser list, the file extensions are shown. It would be nice to be able to hide the file extensions (again this may be possible but I haven't played around enough with the settings). I do like how Rockbox shows songs though.
- Not the best for traversing up and down long lists of songs (this goes back to my point about being able to use the fast-forward buttons to either traverse 1 or multiple songs)

As I use the player more I will add to this list.

[chris_s]

The ability to use the Fast Forward/Rewind buttons to scroll through lists, I found this to be better than relying solely on the scroll touch pad to select songs. It allows much fine grained control when choosing songs. However I noticed that using the fast-forward buttons in Rockbox is great too since it is used to scroll past multiples songs in a large list. From what I've seen the FIIO firmware isn't great for traversing large lists since you have to long press the fast-forward button which scrolls past each song individually. What I would perhaps like to see from Rockbox (if possible) is a toggle in settings to be able to switch between using the fast-forward buttons to either traverse 1 song or traverse multiple when scrolling.

In case you weren't aware of this, you can also tap the top and bottom of the scroll strip (instead of sliding your finger over it) to move to the next or previous list item.

[7o9]

Thanks for sharing, demon_slayer.

Some of the hardware features like DAC-support you will likely always need the original firmware for.

[Frankenpod]

- Visual indicators to distinguish between folders and files (perhaps this is possible in Rockbox but I didn't see it, I mainly use file browsers in the player rather than creating a database so I prefer to see a distinction between files and folders)

Don't the icons show that?  Assuming you are using a theme that has "show icons" turned on (though you can just turn that on from the themes menu anyway, I think).

[demon_slayer]

In case you weren't aware of this, you can also tap the top and bottom of the scroll strip (instead of sliding your finger over it) to move to the next or previous list item.

Oh no way! Very cool, I didn't know this was possible when trying out rockbox

Don't the icons show that?  Assuming you are using a theme that has "show icons" turned on (though you can just turn that on from the themes menu anyway, I think).

I was using the NightPod theme and I didn't see a folder icon out of the box, didn't know there was a 'show icons' setting so it probably is possible. Ignore that point in my original post in that case

[chris_s]

I was using the NightPod theme and I didn't see a folder icon out of the box, didn't know there was a 'show icons' setting so it probably is possible. Ignore that point in my original post in that case

You can blame me for that... I deliberately blanked out the icons in that particular theme to create whitespace to the left side of list items – which is actually kind of hack that should probably rather be a Rockbox UI option. Maybe I'll put up another version with yuuiko's icon set from the InfoMatrix-v2 theme – the ones that are also used in the redux m3k theme. You can also choose your own icon sets by editing a theme's cfg file, although there doesn't appear to be a UI option for that.

[demon_slayer]

Since reverting back to the original FIIO firmware from Rockbox I tried to follow the steps in this guide to reinstall Rockbox to give it another try and noticed that when I restart my player it would keep booting into the FIIO firmware and not the rockbox firmware. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, has anyone else experienced this ?

[7o9]

Could it be the bootloader is not actually installed?

[demon_slayer]

Could it be the bootloader is not actually installed?

I can get to Step 5 of the instructions so I can see the bootloader screen and am able to select Rockbox. It is only when I reboot is when it boots into the FIIO software. 
The first time I installed Rockbox it worked fine. Perhaps because I've reverted back to FIIO firmware and am now trying to reinstall rockbox that is causing issues 

[amachronic]

You're probably forgetting to select Install or update bootloader. When you hit step 5 the bootloader is only temporarily in RAM, it isn't flashed to the device until you hit install. And remember to take a bootloader backup before the install as well.