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How to get Rock Box to find media on an iPod Video.

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nuraman00:

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--- Quote from: nuraman00 on March 03, 2019, 07:52:53 PM ---4 of the music videos are .mp4 files.  Rock Box supports that, right?

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No.  By the way, there is a list of supported formats and instructions in the manual if you need to convert.

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I looked at this manual, and it says .mp4 is a permissible file extension, on page 193:

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Did you actually read that page?


--- Quote from: nuraman00 on March 04, 2019, 04:00:02 AM ---Is there another page with supported formats?

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See the "File formats" chapter.

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I see what my confusion was now.  I had thought that on my Sansa Fuze+ with Rock Box, I had mp4 video files, so I thought the iPod Video with Rock Box should have also played them. 

And then when I looked at that page 193 in the manual, it seemed to suggest that it should have worked.  But now I see that page in the manual that mentioned the mp4 file format, didn't say that mp4 was permissible for video, it just said it was permissible.

And when I checked my Sansa Fuze+, I saw that I had actually converted the videos to .mpg, which is the supported format.  So now I agree, that I will have to do this for the iPod Video too.

I also agree that video takes up a lot of battery life.  But, I only have 5, and watch them once in a while.  Not very frequently.

Another question:

I'm someone that has always listened to albums in their entirety.  I just find the album, play the first track, and then don't skip songs.

But, there's a certain box set that I have, that I now want to pick and chose a little bit, so I can listen to the tracks in a certain order.

So I'll want to create a playlist that isn't simply an album in order.

And also, have it be accessible to both the Apple firmware, and Rock Box, without duplicating the media.

Will this process work?

1)  Create playlist in iTunes.
2)  Sync so it's available to the Apple firmware.  This will copy the media too if necessary.
3)  Use one of the export tools to export that playlist to .m3u format.

I had tried the graphical version of iTunes Export, but I kept getting an error when using the Adobe AIR installer, that said the installer file was a damaged file.

So then I used the command line JAR version, and saw that it created the .m3u playlist.  I see there's various command line options I can give it to help restrict the playlists that it creates.

But I think I want to try a tool with an graphical interface first, so I'll try one of the other tools soon, to create the .m3u playlist.

4)  Put the .m3u playlist in the Rock Box -->Playlist folder on the iPod.



Thanks again for everyone's helpful comments.

Frankenpod:
I don't think that will work, because of the way iTunes completely mangles the directory structure and file names when it syncs.  The exported playlist (depending how exporting works in iTunes) will refer to the file structure of your iTunes library on the PC, but that on the ipod will be completely different once iTunes does it's tiresome obfuscation work.  You'd have to somehow convert, to m3u, the playlist as it is on the iPod rather than how it starts out in iTunes.  Not sure if that can be done.

(I'm assuming iTunes does this as some idiotic attempt at DRM?  I don't understand why they wrote it that way, seems a pointless complication to me).

With a great deal of effort you could work out how the file names/directories on the ipod relate to the album you started with and then reonstruct the playlist 'by hand'.  (This is why the file name mangling is useless as DRM, if the tags are filled in you can just connect an ipod to a PC/Mac/linux box and look at the files and sort them by album name, if you really want to copy music back from the ipod - so I don't get why Apple bothered doing it this way).

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