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Offline Davide-NYC

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Do the iRiver H300 JOYSTICK LCD remotes work w Rockbox on an H1xx?
« on: July 13, 2006, 01:33:47 AM »
I just purchased two of the JOYSTICK remotes for my iHP-140 (H140)



Will this remote work well with Rockbox on my H140?  If not is there a dev that needs me to lend them one temporarily. (I need it back once the code is finished)

Please let me know...

Davide-NYC.

PS: I don't have them yet but they should be on their way from South Korea to NYC.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2006, 09:15:29 PM by Davide-NYC »
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Offline LinusN

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2006, 03:37:26 AM »
Yes, they are supposed to work on the H1xx series as well.
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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2006, 07:48:55 AM »
Although I suspect the buttons will not necessarily do what you imagine they will do!

This is because the button mappings for the remote are all based on the standard h1xx remote which doesn't have a joystick.

There needs to be some code that differentiates between remotes at runtime.

There is a patch HERE that may do the trick if it is an H3xx remote....(I've never seen one so don't know)
« Last Edit: July 17, 2006, 08:12:27 AM by Mmmm »
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Offline XavierGr

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 06:40:47 PM »
When I tried that wierd set-up (when I had an H300 remote on an H100) the remote worked quite well if you exclude some buttons that Mmmm said.

If you learn those misconfigured buttons you could navigate quite easily with it.
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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2006, 07:43:03 PM »
Well, my remotes are not here yet, so this may be premature, but I purchased two for a reason.

I am willing to send a joystick + LCD remote to a dev (Mmmmm?) that is willing to do the coding/testing to get it to work perfectly with the H1xx AND then send the thing back to me when they are done.

Sound interesting?

Davide-NYC
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2006, 08:51:45 AM »
Hmmm that sounds tempting... how much did it cost you? maybe I could buy it off you to relieve the pressure a bit? ;) (unless you need the spare for something else of course)
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2006, 09:21:15 AM »
Could you (or anyone else with the h300 lcd/nonlcd remotes) tell me what the buttons on the top and bottom are labelled?

On the LCD version they must be source, bitrate, on/play, record, mode and stop i assume, as these are defined in the code but not on the front of the remote, but where exactly are these buttons? are they rockers or push in types or what?

On the non-lcd type there must just be vol up/down somewhere (no stop button ???.... it's as bad as an Ipoo!).

Does anyone know?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2006, 09:26:24 AM by Mmmm »
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Offline adam917

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2006, 03:26:13 PM »
Quote from: Mmmm on July 17, 2006, 07:48:55 AM
Although I suspect the buttons will not necessarily do what you imagine they will do!

This is because the button mappings for the remote are all based on the standard h1xx remote which doesn't have a joystick.

There needs to be some code that differentiates between remotes at runtime.

There is a patch HERE that may do the trick if it is an H3xx remote....(I've never seen one so don't know)
That remote is for the H300-series.
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Offline adam917

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2006, 03:59:29 PM »
Quote from: Mmmm on July 26, 2006, 09:21:15 AM
Could you (or anyone else with the h300 lcd/nonlcd remotes) tell me what the buttons on the top and bottom are labelled?

On the LCD version they must be source, bitrate, on/play, record, mode and stop i assume, as these are defined in the code but not on the front of the remote, but where exactly are these buttons? are they rockers or push in types or what?

On the non-lcd type there must just be vol up/down somewhere (no stop button ???.... it's as bad as an Ipoo!).

Does anyone know?
On that H300 LCD joystick remote, there's three jog-levers and the joystick (as well as the hold switch). There's probably more controls on it than the H100-series remote, which has just four jog levers and a Stop & Play button.
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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2006, 04:10:06 PM »
Quote from: adam917 on July 26, 2006, 03:59:29 PM
On that H300 LCD joystick remote, there's three jog-levers and the joystick (as well as the hold switch). There's probably more controls on it than the H100-series remote, which has just four jog levers and a Stop & Play button.
Are you sure? I can only see 2 on the pic and there aren't enough buttons defined in the code for 3!

Both the H1xx remote and the H3xx remote have 11 buttons defined which would tally with 3 jogs and 2 buttons (H1xx) or 2 jogs and 5 buttons (H3xx) (as there are 3 buttons per jog - unless you can't push in the H3xx ones).

I really want to know how they are labelled...do you push the top jog in to play, or push the bottom jog left etc..
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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2006, 05:39:56 PM »
Tons and tons of pics HERE --> http://www.misticriver.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=364

I just got the two I ordered in the mail! They are perfect and they sort of work with my H-140.

I know that these are meant for the H3xx series, but the socket is the same and both the remotes and the base units are so similar I'm sure it won't take that much to get it all working the way it should in Rockbox.

Mmmm, PM me if you want to work something out.

:-)
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Offline adam917

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2006, 06:26:27 PM »
Quote from: Mmmm on July 26, 2006, 04:10:06 PM
Quote from: adam917 on July 26, 2006, 03:59:29 PM
On that H300 LCD joystick remote, there's three jog-levers and the joystick (as well as the hold switch). There's probably more controls on it than the H100-series remote, which has just four jog levers and a Stop & Play button.
Are you sure? I can only see 2 on the pic and there aren't enough buttons defined in the code for 3!

Both the H1xx remote and the H3xx remote have 11 buttons defined which would tally with 3 jogs and 2 buttons (H1xx) or 2 jogs and 5 buttons (H3xx) (as there are 3 buttons per jog - unless you can't push in the H3xx ones).

I really want to know how they are labelled...do you push the top jog in to play, or push the bottom jog left etc..
OOPS MY MISTAKE! I have an LCD joystick remote from the iMP-900 MP3/WMA CD player and it's identical except for the words below the screen. There's ONE lever on the top and ONE on the bottom. The 'Reduce Ticking' option would be handy with this remote, as I've noticed ticking on it before on my iMP-900 with my Boostaroo amp.

My iMP-550 MP3/WMA CD player works fine with both remotes, and the button mappings are identical (you wouldn't be able to tell which CD player you were using except for a few updated firmware features & the Snakebyte game on the iMP-550) on both units.
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2006, 06:05:40 AM »
Quote from: Davide-NYC on July 26, 2006, 05:39:56 PM
Tons and tons of pics HERE --> http://www.misticriver.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=364

I just got the two I ordered in the mail! They are perfect and they sort of work with my H-140.

I know that these are meant for the H3xx series, but the socket is the same and both the remotes and the base units are so similar I'm sure it won't take that much to get it all working the way it should in Rockbox.

Mmmm, PM me if you want to work something out.

:-)
Ta for the pics...hmmm interesting..the top jog is push for play, the bottom push for stop, that's ok...
But the top left is labelled -10 and right +10 ??? what is that supposed to mean? The bottom left is a/b right is mode, whereas these are usually the same button! confusing eh?

Davide-NYC, could you do me a favour? With this remote plugged in, go to mode->info->debug->view I/O ports
now on the remote press left/ right on the jogs and tell me what numbers come up for ADC_REMOTE. From this, I'll know what buttons they are.

Also, I may have a patch/build for you to try out soon, If it works I probably won't need a remote off you, if it doesn't I will! (although I quite fancy having one anyway!) :D
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2006, 08:24:37 AM »
Ok, here's a build for you to try out
H3remotemods.zip

All normal screens should work now with all 3 remotes..give them a go. It messes my H100 remote keys up nicely so that's good (when I enable it for the patch that is). Check for any weirdness (like the wrong lcd lighting up and other possible weirdnesses).

Also give me those ADC_REMOTE numbers I asked for in my previous post so I can tell you what the rocker switches are supposed to do.

Hope it works... plugins probably don't, I'm still looking at it ;)
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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: Do the iRiver JOYSTICK LCD remotes work with Rockbox on an iHP-140?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2006, 08:52:03 AM »
OK, one of my remotes is slightly "off" from the other. Is that normal? Should I return one?

Here are the number:

Remote 1 (the more stable one)

Top Jogwheel
-10 (left) = B8
+10 (right) = 9F
press = 80

Bottom Jogwheel
a-b (left) = 50
mode (right) = 68
press = 38

Joystick
Up = D1
Down = 01
Left = EA
Right = 18
Press = NO CHANGE


Remote 2 (the less stable one)

Top Jogwheel
-10 (left) = B8
+10 (right) = 9F
press = 80

Bottom Jogwheel
a-b (left) = 50
mode (right) = 66/67 (vaccilating between the two numbers)
press = 37

Joystick
Up = D1/D2 (vaccilating between the two numbers)
Down = 01
Left = EA/EB (vaccilating between the two numbers)
Right = 18
Press = NO CHANGE


Does this mean the one of my remotes is bunk? Please let me know these cost me quite a bit (for a DAP remote).

Davide-NYC
« Last Edit: July 28, 2006, 10:37:53 AM by Davide-NYC »
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