Clip won't play some OGG files

[4cm]

I have a number of OGG files on my Clip that won't play and just skip to the next one until it finds one that does play. The problem files still play using the Clip as an external disk and also play successfully on my Clip+. However, tested with the simulator for the Clip, the same behaviour occurs with the following:

Read metadata for /MUSIC/<filename>
Coden: entering run state
Vorbis: allocation failed!
Vorbis: ov_open failed: -133
Codec: cleaning up

Is this related to http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,33386.0.html ? What might I do to fix this?

[saratoga]

No, not related. That message means the player ran out of memory. The original clip has very little memory, so certain ogg files can't be decoded, usually very old versions of the encoder only.

[4cm]

I see. Thanks for the quick response!

I take it there isn't anything to be done other than re-encoding it as another more manageable file (e.g. mp3) as it's a hardware-related limitation for the Clip?

I noticed that the files that don't want to play usually belong to the same album - is it possible that the tags or the album art, etc. is causing this? Is there an easy way to determine which files won't work?

[saratoga]

Large album art can also be a problem if the player runs out of memory trying to parse the file. Rewriting the tags and stripping album art in foobar is an easy way to check for that problem. A lot of files encoded with the early 2000s vorbis encoder though won't be playable, but I think the modern versions should all work.

[4cm]

Cool, I'll look into this. Thanks!