AGPTEK Rocker

[menachem]

I've recently moved to the AGPTEK Rocker with rockbox installed, and am still finding my way around, so I may have missed how to do this.

I have the Timestretch option enabled, and I rebooted the Rocker, but I can't figure out how to get to the Timestretch Options. I can open the Pitch Screen, but I can't switch through the available modes.

The Sansa C200 uses the Rec key to do this, for example: https://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansac200/rockbox-buildch4.html#x6-630004.3.3
The Sansa Clipp Plus uses the Menu key.

How do we do this on the AGPTEK Rocker, which doesn't have a Rec key or a Menu key?

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Also, in the Pitch Screen, clicking on the up arrow send you back to the While Playing Screen, instead of changing the pitch.

[JJ]

I just got the rocker and also found that I couldn't change the playback speed. I use this all the time on my clip zip when listening to podcasts.
I looked at the code and saw that the action to toggle the mode isn't mapped to a button.

The default toggles between two modes. Changing this setting gives more modes with the ability to increase playback speed with pitch correction.
Settings->Sound Settings->Timestretch->Yes

Here's the changes I suggest to make to
"static const struct button_mapping button_context_pitchscreen[]" in "apps/keymaps/keymap-agptekrocker.c"

Move exit to BUTTON_SELECT so it acts like confirming a setting.
Keeping BUTTON_POWER to also exit is ok. It's not as convenient to use, but doesn't hurt anything. This was the only way on the clip and I found it annoying.
Toggle mode on BUTTON_UP to navigate.
Reset by holding BUTTON_SELECT. (Could also use BUTTON_DOWN)
I like keeping the pitch only control on the volume up/down since those might not be used very often. I know I don't use that ability.

Current mappings:

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//    { ACTION_PS_TOGGLE_MODE,    BUTTON_REC,                BUTTON_NONE },
    { ACTION_PS_RESET,          BUTTON_SELECT,             BUTTON_NONE },
    { ACTION_PS_EXIT,           BUTTON_POWER,              BUTTON_NONE },
    { ACTION_PS_EXIT,           BUTTON_UP,                 BUTTON_NONE },

New mapping suggestion:

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    { ACTION_PS_TOGGLE_MODE,    BUTTON_UP,                   BUTTON_NONE },
    { ACTION_PS_RESET,          BUTTON_SELECT|BUTTON_REPEAT, BUTTON_SELECT },
    { ACTION_PS_EXIT,           BUTTON_POWER,                BUTTON_NONE },
    { ACTION_PS_EXIT,           BUTTON_SELECT|BUTTON_REL,    BUTTON_SELECT },

On the the now playing screen,
  "static const struct button_mapping button_context_wps[]"

Set button to get to the pitch screen. Hold BUTTON_UP is the same as the clip and isn't currently assigned on the rocker.
I use this action a lot since I change the speed based on what I'm listening to.

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{ ACTION_WPS_PITCHSCREEN,   BUTTON_UP|BUTTON_REPEAT,     BUTTON_UP },

I think these above changes should made and won't break how people currently use the device.

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In my build I made some other changes to button_context_wps, but not sure what is consistent or most useful to have easier access to.
Here's my current experimentation. I think I use browse the most.
Changed lock to a 2 button press. This is an easy combo to do with one hand. Much easier that what the clip had.

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{ ACTION_STD_KEYLOCK,       BUTTON_POWER|BUTTON_VOLUP,   BUTTON_NONE  },  // was BUTTON_POWER
{ ACTION_WPS_QUICKSCREEN,   BUTTON_POWER|BUTTON_REL,     BUTTON_POWER },  // was hold BUTTON_DOWN
{ ACTION_WPS_VIEW_PLAYLIST, BUTTON_POWER|BUTTON_VOLDOWN, BUTTON_NONE  },  // was unassigned
{ ACTION_WPS_BROWSE,        BUTTON_DOWN|BUTTON_REPEAT,   BUTTON_DOWN  },  // was unassigned

[wodz]

Thanks for inspiration:
https://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=b552a3720525652d01fe94e214d4fb195acab50a

I feel keymap needs more refinement. Personally I am against using 2-keys-combo for locking when simple power is available and consistent with OF and general smartphone feeling.

[Bilgus]

@Wodz
Have you verified if the volume up keys work in menus on the Rocker?
I saw your keymap patch and noted that the other person that submitted a patch in gerrit
http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1900/5/apps/keymaps/keymap-agptekrocker.c@102
had to switch to using BUTTON_VOLUP instead of BUTTON_VOL_UP

I also don't see BUTTON_VOL_UP defined here: https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/d64ff86fb6be22875cfae054f8a878dbd8b1472b/firmware/target/hosted/agptek/button-target.h

[Gomas]

If it means something, I can't change volume from menu in the (I believe) stable version of rockbox. Some menus doesn't work either when trying to change some settings. Message below.

http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51653.msg243162.html#msg243162

[Bilgus]

the patch didn't break existing functionality it just didn't fix it 

[wodz]

I am looking at improving keymap further. This however makes me curious how Pitchscreen is supposed to work actually? I find it strange that left and right press/release cancels each other on every target I looked at. Either I miss something fundamental or ALL keymaps are currently broken wrt pitchscreen.

[Bilgus]

I've never had a need for the pitch screen its always been an annoyance that I press in my pocket on accident.

On three devices I tested it on it isn't working properly [left and right]
I want to say it used to work.

It is possible I broke it when I refactored the action system but perhaps its been broken for a while..
It behaves the same with 3.13 Reading the manual it seems to be the desired behaviour
Left / Right
Temporarily change pitch by 2% (beatmatch), or modify speed (in timestretch mode).
 

[Frankenpod]

I've never had a need for the pitch screen its always been an annoyance that I press in my pocket on accident.

I've used it a lot with podcasts - for speeding them up to save time (people talk too damn slowly!  I'm a busy guy, speak faster! Well. not that busy or I wouldn't be listening to podcasts so much, but still).

I don't use it on a Rocker, though.

Have to turn on 'timestretch' first, mind. Or that screen doesn't work. And, maybe - not sure, can't remember - reboot after doing so.

[JimZipCode]

Rockbox stops playing when usb charger is connected. Is there a setting to allow it to play when plugged in?

turn on the player, then hold down the center button, connect the charging cable, listen to the music (-;

Now THAT is super helpful!  Thanks

[bahus]

Personally I am against using 2-keys-combo for locking when simple power is available and consistent with OF and general smartphone feeling.

Thanks for you work.
I checked your latest version and found current power key handling is actually not consistent with original OF/smartphone feeling.

I expect it to turn off screen but instead it simply locks the buttons. It's  also not consistent with other rockboxed players I have (clip zip, Iriver H10 and iPod) - all of them use 2-keys-combo for locking and power key turn offs screen immediately. So could you please return this behavior for consistency.

There is another feature I miss from Clip Zip - long pressing right/left buttons in file view make names scroll. It's very convenient feature to quickly read long folder/file names. Could you please also enable this feature for Rocker

[Njones]

New firmware update available for Agptek Rocker from Agptek.

[speachy]

Huh. The change they list is:  "Enables to be compatible with Rockbox system."

Downloading it yields a PDF with instructions to grab a couple of uncredited files from google drive -- a update.upt image and a rockbox.zip that were generated April 9, 2018.

It's nice to see AGPTek acknowledge Rockbox, but... this doesn't seem to be the best way to go about it...


EDIT:  These links are the same files referenced here:  http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51653.msg241905.html#msg241905

[nonob]

Hi,

I'm searching a successor to my Sansa Clip+ rockboxed (it power on but i have no sound, only a "plop" per second).
I wanted buy the "Clip Sport" but it is not compatible Rockbox and seems to have limitations (2000 tracks max ?!).

So i searched again and found this "new" brand "Agptek". I'm a little lost with all the models found on Amazon.

The "Rocker" seems to be the only one with a rockbox port (unstable ?). Can you confirm ?

Is there others low price mp3 players i should consider ?

Where can i buy this "Rocker" compatible with Rockbox ? Are MC15 and MC15 "2nd" (v2) ok ?

A lot of questions

Thanks

[Polochon_street]

Hi,

A totally non-technical answer:
I was looking for a very long time for a successor to my (various) dear Sansa Clip+, that kept on dying one after another.

Then I tried the Clip Sport, but the track limitation was really bothering me (since I have a 128Go MicroSD card). I've found the AGPTEK Rocker after roaming the internet to find a worthy counterpart, which I purchased from there
(https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01MZ50M0Y/ref=pe_3044161_185740101_TE_item - not sure if it's authorized to post retailers links in the forum, so tell me) - it seems unavailable, but you might find it on other stores.

It works with a 128Gb SD Card, the rockbox port is perfect from what I saw - the only annoying thing is that the volume buttons seem that they have to be held and not pressed only once or twice to lower the volume, but I guess it's fixable, I just didn't take the time to look at it properly. Also, it sounds great to me, but I am not an audiophile, so I can't really tell you.

Finally, I think they are all named Rocker but are really MC15s, but maybe someone with more knowledge can expand on that?

Hope it answered your questions!