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iPod Video 5G with iFlash adapter - is RockBox really hopeless in that case?

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saratoga:
The database uses the same (tiny) amount of ram on 32 and 64 MB iPods, so I dont  think it should affect it either way.

RockBoxNewB:
Thanks saratoga and Frankenpod for your insightful and quick answers, your help is very much appreciated!
Right now, I'm a bit at a loss what I should try next... or what I should try at all. And yes, you are right - I purchased one of Tarkan Akdam's iFlash Quads, I am also not aware of any alternative products in this category.

For storage, I use one SanDisk Ultra 128GB as well as two Samsung Evo+ 128GB micro SDs. From what I read on Tarkan's page, all of these are confirmed to work with the adapter! I COULD try to switch them around (at the moment, the SanDisk is in slot 1, but I could put one of the Samsungs there...however, I'm not sure if this will work easily since the entire storage structure might be wrong then).

You could say I was putting all my hope into the attempt to modify a later iPod with more RAM - but your answers suggest this is not going to improve things radically. That puts me back to square one.
Going without the database is no option for me in the first place. From other threads, I understood not too much attention is put on this feature and it seems that not many use it. For me, it's essential though! At the moment, I have a collection of around 7500 songs, and the main feature for me to sort them is by RATING. Yes, you read right. For several years now, I have rated each and every song I put on my RockBox device. That's still how it works best for me, as silly as it might sound to some. Without the database feature, all of that would be impossible.
After all, I'm not sure if the database itself is the reason for my problem. I did not have time to test properly whether using RockBox but deactivating the database changes anything. But as I said, without the database, the device is without value for me.

Similarly, using only the original Apple firmware is out of question. I need the massive file format compatibility of RockBox, particularly for FLAC files since almost my entire collection consists of those.

As far as the USB issue goes... I would not mind having to boot into Apple FW everytime I transfer files to the iPod, as long as that would help. I need to do that anyway, since all file transfers fail via the RockBox USB handler anway. This also worries me a lot, because I HAVE already transferred all files via the Apple firmware, so according to what you say, there shouldn't be any issues anymore! Or do you mean I have to transfer everything via ITUNES? What I have done so far is start the Apple OF, connect USB but still use drag-and-drop via Windows Explorer to send the files over.

I hope this clears up some things! Please let me know what your guesses are.

Best,
RBNB

Frankenpod:
The only thing I can say is that I have found some brands of full size SD cards don't like Rockbox on ipod Classics even if they work with OF.  Don't know if that is even relevant to ipod videos (which I think deal with the drive differently?) or to micro SD cards.

I don't suggest transferring via iTunes, what you have done is what I do and it works for me.

Are you saying the thing works if you ignore rockbox completely and do everything with iTunes/OF?  If you only have flacs I would assume you can't even test that, so maybe there's something else wrong and its not actually to do with rockbox?  (i.e. bad usb cable, bad drive cable or drive cable not fully inserted in iflash, faulty card, card not formatted the right way, etc?)

You could also remove some cards, reformat and start again, and see if either the samsung or the sandisk card works on its own in slot one.
(If you rearrange or remove cards you will have to completely restore and start again)

(If one brand doesn't work I'd be interested to know as I might get a quad adaptor myself some time!)

saratoga:

--- Quote from: RockBoxNewB on September 28, 2016, 04:13:33 PM ---Thanks saratoga and Frankenpod for your insightful and quick answers, your help is very much appreciated!
Right now, I'm a bit at a loss what I should try next... or what I should try at all.

--- End quote ---

Its pretty clear given the constant stream of people posting with problems that these adapters do not work with rockbox.  Unless you're intending to add support for whatever they need to the ATA driver, you can try using the Apple firmware. 

[Saint]:
I have to concur with saratoga here regarding RAM.

Even on the 32MB iPod Videos an overwhelming percentage of RAM is left over for the audio buffer. The amount used by the database is truly insignificant. You can view this yourself very easily in the debug menu. Throwing more RAM at this when we already have plenty to spare won't solve anything.

On the iPod Videos I would be far far far more willing to believe that the bottleneck is either disk or CPU based (CPU on the iPod Videos is less than stellar, three or four bands in the parametric EQ and you're going to have trouble with real-time decode of lossy formats), or plain observational bias.

I'm not too willing to think the latter without experimentation though, since the fancy new filesystem code no one actually needed ended up nuking database-in-RAM capabilities because it "wasn't needed" and "should be fast enough", something that I am not even going to pretend I'm not bitter about.

If someone gets adventurous and wants to beat me to the punch comparing database performance (with both database-in-RAM enabled and disabled on the legacy build, preferably) with git head vs. 95a4c3a (just before the WIP filesystem rework) that would be neat.


[Saint]

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