clip zip bricked?

[fitz]

hi,
sorry for my bad english

i'm the happy owner of a clip zip since 2 years with rockbox 3.13. Yesterday i wanted to try the latest build dev (18fecd9) to see the battery improvements. So i did the update (just rockbox not boatloader). But i have a problem now, i have try to record my voice with the built in mic and rockbox crash (white screen), so i wanted to go back to 3.13 but i can't write anything on the internal storage. under windows or linux when try to delete or copy files its looks ok but when i restart rockbox, the files i have deleted (ex:music) reappear and the files i added are not here (ex:clpzV010121.bin). it looks like that i can't change anything, i have try to format/fix disk error but it doesn't work.
Beside that, the player runs well and the battery is good.
Anyone can help me to go back to 3.13 please, i use the mic for my work.

Thanks
Vincent

[saratoga]

If you reboot into the Sandisk firmware (hold left while powering on) does USB work normally?

[fitz]

yes the usb works i see the player on linux/windows but i have a message not enough space Please free 200 mb on the clip. but even in that mode i can't do anything (add/delete files, format, check disk error)

[Mihail Zenkov]

When player off - try hold select (middle button) and connect it to usb. Then try check disk for errors.
If it not help - attach dmesg output after this try.

[fitz]

When player off - try hold select (middle button) and connect it to usb. Then try check disk for errors.
If it not help - attach dmesg output after this try.

i try on windows.  it see there is cross-link files but unfortunately it doesn't fix anything.

here is the dmess (sorry it's in french)

H:\>chkdsk /f /r
Le type du système de fichiers est FAT32.
Impossible de verrouiller le lecteur en cours.

Chkdsk n'a pas pu s'exécuter car le volume est utilisé par un autre
processus. Chkdsk pourra s'exécuter après que ce volume soit démonté.
LES DESCRIPTEURS OUVERTS SUR CE VOLUME NE SERONT PLUS VALIDES.
Voulez-vous forcer le démontage de ce volume ? (O/N) o
Le volume est démonté. Tous les descripteurs ouverts dans ce volume ne sont
plus valides.
Volume SANSA CLIPZ a créé 24/06/2015 01:51
Le numéro de série du volume est 288B-70A1
Windows vérifie les fichiers et les dossiers...
Vérification des fichiers et des dossiers terminée.
Les liens défectueux de chaîne perdue du cluster 125056 ont été corrigés.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 125183. Orphelin tronqué.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 866943. Orphelin tronqué.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 870015. Orphelin tronqué.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 869375. Orphelin tronqué.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 881407. Orphelin tronqué.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 881621. Orphelin tronqué.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 882431. Orphelin tronqué.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 883327. Orphelin tronqué.
Lien perdu en référence croisée au cluster 883071. Orphelin tronqué.
Convertir les liens perdus en fichiers (O/N) ? o

[saratoga]

Try formatting in the sandisk firmware:  Boot to Sandisk Firmware > Settings > System Settings > Format

[fitz]

Try formatting in the sandisk firmware:  Boot to Sandisk Firmware > Settings > System Settings > Format

i can't. when i try to boot on the sandisk firmware i have a message "not enough space Please free 200 mb" and it shutdown. And when i try to delete songs to free space they reappear after reboot

[Mihail Zenkov]

When player off - try hold select (middle button) and connect it to usb. Then try check disk for errors.
If it not help - attach dmesg output after this try.

i try on windows.  it see there is cross-link files but unfortunately it doesn't fix anything.

dmesg in linux show more useful information (write protection, usb mode and errors). So if you can - try do this in linux.

saratoga: Is it possible change dir for recordings to sd card?

[saratoga]

Yes you can browse to a folder on the SD card, long select it, and then choose "set as recording directory" in the context menu.

[fitz]

dmesg in linux show more useful information (write protection, usb mode and errors). So if you can - try do this in linux.

saratoga: Is it possible change dir for recordings to sd card?

i will try. what is the command line? fsck?

yes, you can change the directory, but in my case none of the change i do in the settings are saved. after a reboot it goes back at the state before the first crash mentioned in my first post

[Mihail Zenkov]

fsck /dev/sdb (or change sdb to another name - see it in dmesg)

[fitz]

dmesg in linux show more useful information (write protection, usb mode and errors). So if you can - try do this in linux.

here's the result on linux :

- whith msc mode (power off + select button) player is not detected (fdisk -l) and thee computer freeze, so i can't run fsck (it works on windows btw)
- whith the sansa firmware (power off + rewind) player is detected

fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sdd: 3933 MB, 3933732864 bytes, 7683072 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x73696420
This doesn't look like a partition table
Probably you selected the wrong device.
   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdd1   ?  1936286752  1926158736  2142419640+  45  Unknown
/dev/sdd2   ?  1853169786  3723051230   934940722+  65  Novell Netware 386
/dev/sdd3   ?  1701978226  3336544981   817283378   20  Unknown
/dev/sdd4   ?  2885681152  2885734079       26464    d  Unknown

fsck
fsck from util-linux 2.23.2
dosfsck 3.0.16, 01 Mar 2013, FAT32, LFN
0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt.
1) Remove dirty bit
2) No action
? 1
FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ?
1) Use first FAT
2) Use second FAT
? 1
Reclaimed 3388 unused clusters (13877248 bytes).
Free cluster summary wrong (42215 vs. really 45603)
1) Correct
2) Don't correct
? 1
Leaving file system unchanged.
/dev/sdd: 1064 files, 912733/958336 clusters


the problem is still here

[Mihail Zenkov]

- whith msc mode (power off + select button) player is not detected (fdisk -l) and thee computer freeze, so i can't run fsck (it works on windows btw)

Can you connect player in this mode and show dmesg output?

[fitz]

- whith msc mode (power off + select button) player is not detected (fdisk -l) and thee computer freeze, so i can't run fsck (it works on windows btw)

Can you connect player in this mode and show dmesg output?

sure but i don't know how to do, can you explain?

[Mihail Zenkov]

Just type 'dmesg' in terminal. You also can redirect output of command to file: dmesg > dmesg.txt