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ecereb:
I have an IPod Video 5.5g which I had an Apricorn 240gb hard disc upgrade installed with RockBox on it for over 4 years.  Just recently the drive began to fail so I decided to install a Zheino 256gb SSD in it.  I also took the time to install a new 800MAh battery. 

When I reinstalled RockBox, it wouldn't boot but instead posted an error -22.  After looking through all the forums, I found that someone said they had fixed the problem and put the fixed image on beyondwind.duckdns.org/downloads/rockbox.zip.

I copied the unzipped folder to the iPod and everything worked as it should...with the exception there is a severe battery drain with the iPod shut down.  I thought that the main board was bad, so I got another one for $99.  I installed the new board and the same thing happens.  I then got another battery and the same thing occurred with the new battery.

The battery drains out totally dead in about three days. 

The next step was to boot into the Apple firmware.  It has been three days and the battery is still fully charged.

Note.  There are a number of other lossless players on the market such as the Fillo X series.  The problem is these are at best flaky, unreliable, and not that user friendly.  And the cost for a 256GB model is somewhere north of 6 to $800.  No, a 5.5g RockBox iPod with a 256GB or greater SSD is the best.  Nothing can compare to the flexibility and ease of use of this setup, much less the total price of a complete conversion.   This is reflected in the recent surge of 5.5g parts costs. 

Though the Apple firmware does work, the pain of iTunes and the Apple embedded firmware’s severe limitations makes RockBox an absolute necessity. 

So, if Apple can make an embedded driver for both HDs and SSDs even before SSDs were known about, why can’t RockBox developers do the same? 

Please, let’s fix this.

Thanks
Steves

saratoga:

--- Quote from: ecereb on April 04, 2016, 02:01:57 PM ---The next step was to boot into the Apple firmware.  It has been three days and the battery is still fully charged.

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The apple firmware doesn't actually give you the ability to shut down, its always on, just in a low power mode.


--- Quote from: ecereb on April 04, 2016, 02:01:57 PM ---So, if Apple can make an embedded driver for both HDs and SSDs even before SSDs were known about, why can’t RockBox developers do the same? 

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The original driver was reverse engineered from the Apple driver over a long period of time.  It now works quite well with the stock drives, but I don't think anyone has seriously looked at updating it to work with more modern ATA devices like SSDs, probably because not many people have them.  That is why lots of SSDs don't seem to work at all with rockbox. 

[Saint]:

--- Quote from: ecereb on April 04, 2016, 02:01:57 PM ---So, if Apple can make an embedded driver for both HDs and SSDs even before SSDs were known about, why can’t RockBox developers do the same?

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Fact of the matter is, we can.

It is only a subset of disks that behave in this fashion. I am not aware of a single developer who actually has a disk that displays this behaviour. Except for BeyondWind, and I don't believe they are still active.

If you're wanting some insight as to why the supplied fix hasn't been upstreamed, it is because frankly, it is a bit of a mess. It doesn't really "fix" the issue so much as it does work around it in a fairly hackish way. Rockbox isn't interested in committing a fix simply because it exists, it needs to exist *and* be well written and appropriate.



--- Quote from: ecereb on April 04, 2016, 02:01:57 PM ---Please, let’s fix this.

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Patches welcome.

You're the one with the failing hardware, and apparently, the motivation. This makes you the prime candidate for addressing this situation.


[Saint]

ecereb:
I hope I didn’t offend anyone here.  That’s was not my attention.  This effort to cut through the shackles of constrictive music industry is to be highly commended.  Thank you so much.

As for beyondwind.duckdns.org/downloads/rockbox.zip version, this was the only thing I could find that would fix the problem.

As for SSDs, I’ve read on various blogs and forums that these are becoming more prevalent for the various music players especially the iPod 5.5g.  The reason for this is, this iPod has been proven to have the highest fidelity.  I’ve personally listened to and compared a variety of different iPods and several other vendor’s portable music players/MP3 players. 

As far as me taking on fixing this issue…  I’m sorry to say I lack the expertise.

I apologize for seeming to appear upset.

saratoga:
I don't think you have to apologize, just understand that since you've customized the hardware, it is very difficult for someone else to help you. 

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