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rbhawaii:
Midori - Sorry, my knowledge and experience on this is limited to the 5.0 and 5.5 versions of the ipod video only. I think this build should work with any ssd or flash card/drive or even any hard drive. As long as apple's original ipod os can see it with itunes and restore it (format it), then this patch will make it work in rockbox.
When I looked at beyond wind's site at the top where it says "Rockbox for iPOD mSATA SSD MOD" it seems he has a separate patch/build for the 6.0 and 7.0 versions of the ipod. Only problem is that his patch/build is not the original 3.13 but I dont think there is a original 3.13 build for the 6g & 7g ipods. So, unless you need the ipod to have an aluminum face and a built in radio... i would just stick with the 5.5g ipods for rockbox.
in any case , he gives a very detailed step by step of how to get the 6g and 7g working here...
http://beyondwind.duckdns.org/?page_id=147
try it out and let us know so other members can benefit from your efforts
midori:
Thank you so much for the link!
This bootloader seems to have made a major difference. So far this build has worked on my control (My older replaced ipod classic which has a dying battery). The last bootloader and ubi file failed to install for both my SSD ipod and this original one.
Now that I got emCORE to install correctly, I also successfully installed the latest dev version of Rockbox for the Ipod 6gen (found here: http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod6g ) using this same bootloader.
Now the real question remains; can I get this to work on the new one with the SSD. I'll be testing this later tonight when I get home from work, I'll post or edit this post with my results here.
Once again, thank you for the link~!
[Saint]:
You absolutely should not be using emCORE. Please, don't. And please discontinue recommending anyone else do so.
And you definitely shouldn't be using someone's third party patched builds with no source supplied. That's an interesting lesson in trust.
Basically, emCORE was never intended to be used by the masses, ever. You can think of it as a development tool that just so happens to also be able to boot Rockbox on the iPod Classic 6G variants. Also, consider it deprecated. There is no further development on this project going forward.
If you would like to try out the current state of dedicated bootloader development for the iPod6g, please consider using the Rockbox dual-boot bootloader for iPod6g(*), which unlike emCORE, will actually benefit end users going forward and is intended for wide scale end user deployment.
I have compiled the binaries myself, and both Windows and Linux variants are available in the same archive. This bootloader can be thought of as the spiritual successor of emCORE. Currently all functions are working as expected. Dual-boot, Disk Mode, Diagnostic Mode, and of course, booting Rockbox itself. Installation is supported by the Rockbox Utility graphical installation tool (also included).
[Saint]
(*) Sources supplied via the Rockbox gerrit instance
midori:
--- Quote from: [Saint] on May 09, 2016, 06:08:01 PM ---If you would like to try out the current state of dedicated bootloader development for the iPod6g, please consider using the Rockbox dual-boot bootloader for iPod6g(*), which unlike emCORE, will actually benefit end users going forward and is intended for wide scale end user deployment.
--- End quote ---
Yea that installation is way too difficult to understand.
I'm not sure how this is supposed to be easier than EMcore. Your instructions require a Command Line install, and I basically have no idea what it's talking about.
I would love to try out the dual bootloader you provided, but unfortunately if it's not as simple as dropping a ubi file onto the DFU, then I'm afraid I just can't follow.
Also running the mk6gboot did not successfully "mount" the DFU mode ipod. Instead I used an older bootstrapper I have that works, but there is no ubi file to drop in there and I have no idea where I would be entering these command line sentences as there isn't really any clear instructions on where to type them or anything.
--- Quote from: [Saint] on May 09, 2016, 06:08:01 PM ---You absolutely should not be using emCORE. Please, don't. And please discontinue recommending anyone else do so.
--- End quote ---
EMcore is just much easier and simpler to understand.
I will try that new patched version though for SSDs now that I've reformatted it anyway with a fresh EMcore install.
[Saint]:
--- Quote from: midori on June 09, 2016, 09:53:05 PM ---Yea that installation is way too difficult to understand.
I'm not sure how this is supposed to be easier than EMcore. Your instructions require a Command Line install, and I basically have no idea what it's talking about.
I would love to try out the dual bootloader you provided, but unfortunately if it's not as simple as dropping a ubi file onto the DFU, then I'm afraid I just can't follow.
--- End quote ---
There's so many things wrong with this.
The instructions do not require a commandline environment. A modified Rockbox Utility is included for both Linux and Windows operating systems that is entirely capable of managing the installation, but even if it didn't, I find the statement to be disingenuous at best because your "emCORE is easier" argument falls over entirely due to the emCORE installation being a solely commandline driven installation.
The only part of the emCORE installation that isn't driven by the commandline is after you have actually uploaded the UBI image to the device and press a button combination to tell emCORE that you're really, really, really sure you want to erase the entire disk and proceed.
So saying that the Rockbox ipod6g bootloader is any more difficult to use, because it has a commandline driven installation (which is itself entirely optional), when emCORE installation for all intents and purposes suffers the exact same problems cited, but with no option to defer to a GUI installation, frankly, baffles me.
Basically, to make a long story short, there's absolutely no reason for you to be touching the manual installation instructions at all. The full suite of tools for commandline and guided GUI installation is included for both Linux and Windows simply for convenience and user preference. Just start RockboxUtility, select your iPod model, and it will guide you through the installation.
The only things you will need to do with the GUI installer is manually is select the device type, initiate DFU mode since this can not be automated (this, as you know, is true for emCORE as well), and click a button indicating your intent to start the process. RockboxUtility will even guide you through the process of initiating DFU mode start to finish because a lot of users seem to mess this up.
So, with all this new and corrected information you might find it worthwhile to revisit the installation.
[Saint]
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