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Offline ZincAlloy

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #120 on: October 12, 2016, 03:31:40 PM »
Yeah, I know. It's tiny, awkward and you can't see any detail, but seeing the cover is part of the album experience for me, so I use album art even on a 96x96 screen.  ;D
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Offline Nailer

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #121 on: October 16, 2016, 11:23:03 AM »
Quote from: hunterleo on August 30, 2016, 04:13:55 AM
Hi turtlepurple,

A12 does play OGG files.

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, we are planning to launch the new model in two months if everything goes well. However, we couldn't make any promise.

Thank you,

Leo



Hey Leo,
I am really interested in your AGPTEK H01 DAP.
And I am probably buy it, but I am wondering because it is hard to know all the necessary details on chips and hardware.
Is it possible and is hardware inside of that DAP capable of handling a rockbox.
If it is possible I would like to try to do a port of it.
Because  you are on forums here i would like to take opportunity to ask you that to save some time and money if I decide to do a port.

Thanks
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Offline CaptainSodaPop

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #122 on: October 30, 2016, 08:24:54 PM »
I hope this player isn't canceled and will launch soon. :'(

Any update Leo?
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Offline hunterleo

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #123 on: October 30, 2016, 10:57:49 PM »
Quote from: CaptainSodaPop on October 30, 2016, 08:24:54 PM
I hope this player isn't canceled and will launch soon. :'(

Any update Leo?

The hardware part is done. We are fixing some bugs on the software.

Thank you,

Leo
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Offline Massa

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #124 on: October 31, 2016, 07:01:38 AM »
I just stumbled across this thread.  ;)

Maybe it's a bit late to post hardware wishes - but I'm searching for a new device which is capable to run rockbox on it and could not find anything which meets my requirements;

My requirements seems to be a bit different than the ones which had been posted here...

I'm looking for a device with at least two micro sd card slots (together >= 256GB) and a reasonable big enough (color) display - I usually use WPS screens with bigger album art (and it's IMHO also easier to navigate with bigger display).
The xodoo x3 seems to be a very good device - but the display is only monochrom and I'm not sure if album art is possible on it.
The Xuelin iHifi 770C seems also to be a good device - but it only has one sd card slot and is therefore limited to 128G...

The FiiO X5 II seems to meet my requirements - but I'm not sure if rockbox runs on it - and it's too expensive!

@hunterleo: as far as I undestand you designed a "mini" device which is capable to run rockbox on it?!
Does your company decide to also build a bigger device which would fulfill my requirements?
It should still be "payable" (max. 150 Eur) and good rockbox support is a must!
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Offline hunterleo

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #125 on: November 01, 2016, 02:28:12 AM »
Quote from: Massa on October 31, 2016, 07:01:38 AM
I just stumbled across this thread.  ;)

Maybe it's a bit late to post hardware wishes - but I'm searching for a new device which is capable to run rockbox on it and could not find anything which meets my requirements;

My requirements seems to be a bit different than the ones which had been posted here...

I'm looking for a device with at least two micro sd card slots (together >= 256GB) and a reasonable big enough (color) display - I usually use WPS screens with bigger album art (and it's IMHO also easier to navigate with bigger display).
The xodoo x3 seems to be a very good device - but the display is only monochrom and I'm not sure if album art is possible on it.
The Xuelin iHifi 770C seems also to be a good device - but it only has one sd card slot and is therefore limited to 128G...

The FiiO X5 II seems to meet my requirements - but I'm not sure if rockbox runs on it - and it's too expensive!

@hunterleo: as far as I undestand you designed a "mini" device which is capable to run rockbox on it?!
Does your company decide to also build a bigger device which would fulfill my requirements?
It should still be "payable" (max. 150 Eur) and good rockbox support is a must!

New sd slot supports 2TB. Does it solves your problem?

We will consider your advice for our next new model. Thanks!
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Offline CaptainSodaPop

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #126 on: November 01, 2016, 05:57:35 PM »
Quote from: hunterleo on October 30, 2016, 10:57:49 PM
Quote from: CaptainSodaPop on October 30, 2016, 08:24:54 PM
I hope this player isn't canceled and will launch soon. :'(

Any update Leo?

The hardware part is done. We are fixing some bugs on the software.

Thank you,

Leo

I am glad it's that way.Can't wait for it to launch and to see how it looks. :)
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Offline ethanay

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #127 on: November 03, 2016, 05:57:02 PM »
@hunterleo Take a look at this thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51546.msg238250.html#msg238250

I think it would make strategic sense for your company to target education institutions for electronics engineering, software design/engineering, and music programs (like a media-specific Raspberry Pi) to specifically meet their needs with purpose-built hardware:

  • open hardware for electronic engineering program collaboration
  • Rockbox and other open source software for university software engineering programs,
  • plus specific niche features for musician and music students, like
  • a-b repeat
  • variable speed (with or without pitch shift)
  • and pitch shift in % (for out-of-tune) or semi-tones (to match tuning)
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While these features are in Rockbox, hardware implementation is really useful to make it easy and practical to have a responsive a-b marker placement or easy access to speed adjustment.

You can integrate this "education focus" into your business model and target mainly educational institutions for their needs and help ensure a stable demand base for  your business model of offering really good, affordable purpose-built portable media player hardware, which would help support the rockbox development as well.

Quote from: hunterleo on November 01, 2016, 02:28:12 AM

New sd slot supports 2TB. Does it solves your problem?

We will consider your advice for our next new model. Thanks!
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Offline staeff

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #128 on: November 17, 2016, 03:41:36 AM »
Hello Leo,

despite the great idea to support rockbox, have you considered creating a consumer android based mp3 player?
As an alternative to smartphones it does not need a large or high res screen, but should be much smaller.
Furthermore, at least in my opinion, it should offer typical control buttons.
The main advantage should wifi support, so that people could download podcasts, audiobooks and music from subscription services like spotify.
Rockbox could still run there as an audio player.

For my personal taste, the current android players are much too large and much to expensive.

(An alternative to android could be Tizen. )
« Last Edit: November 17, 2016, 03:43:13 AM by staeff »
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Offline hunterleo

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #129 on: November 18, 2016, 01:06:53 AM »
Quote from: staeff on November 17, 2016, 03:41:36 AM
Hello Leo,

despite the great idea to support rockbox, have you considered creating a consumer android based mp3 player?
As an alternative to smartphones it does not need a large or high res screen, but should be much smaller.
Furthermore, at least in my opinion, it should offer typical control buttons.
The main advantage should wifi support, so that people could download podcasts, audiobooks and music from subscription services like spotify.
Rockbox could still run there as an audio player.

For my personal taste, the current android players are much too large and much to expensive.



(An alternative to android could be Tizen. )

Yes, we also are working on a new android one.
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Offline staeff

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #130 on: November 18, 2016, 04:06:32 AM »
Quote from: hunterleo on November 18, 2016, 01:06:53 AM

Yes, we also are working on a new android one.

Great news! Can it also be expected in December?
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Offline phr

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #131 on: November 19, 2016, 02:26:37 AM »
Last thing we need is more android players, raspberry pi etc.  Those are large and power hungry.

My wish list:

1) User replaceable battery is #1!!  Products come and go so I'd like to be able to keep the player running for a long time.  It's ok if replacing the battery requires disassembling the player or even soldering some wires, but it should use a standard form factor battery (like in bluetooth headsets) and disassembly should be possible.  The Sansa Fuze is glued together so if you take it apart, it's hard to reassemble.  Actually, using an AAA cell like the Sansa M200 series would be fantastic.

2) reasonably small size, like original Sansa Fuze is fine, Clip series is fine, etc.  Don't need clothing clip.  Don't need super miniaturization.  Don't need color display. 

3) Multi-line display a little larger than Clip/Clip+'s (i.e. like Clip Zip or Fuze) would be nice but not required.

4) Real time clock (player keeps track of current time and date) is important for some applications like TOTP token or alarm.

6) No voice recording, there should not be a microphone anywhere in the device (security issue).

7) Don't need bluetooth and would prefer a version without bluetooth (same as above)

8) Complete source code to all internal software, of course. 

Wow!!!!
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Offline hunterleo

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #132 on: November 20, 2016, 09:23:37 PM »
Quote from: staeff on November 18, 2016, 04:06:32 AM
Quote from: hunterleo on November 18, 2016, 01:06:53 AM

Yes, we also are working on a new android one.

Great news! Can it also be expected in December?

Android version is much more difficult to develop. We don't have a schedule yet.
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Offline MoeD

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #133 on: November 22, 2016, 03:00:38 PM »
Hunterleo,

My Sansa Clip just died yesterday and I'm in the market for a new mp3 player.

Should I hold out for the new AGPtEK with Rockbox OS? Will it be days, weeks, or months?

Thanks
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Offline hunterleo

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Re: work on best low cost mp3 player for rockbox
« Reply #134 on: November 23, 2016, 10:17:15 PM »
Quote from: MoeD on November 22, 2016, 03:00:38 PM
Hunterleo,

My Sansa Clip just died yesterday and I'm in the market for a new mp3 player.

Should I hold out for the new AGPtEK with Rockbox OS? Will it be days, weeks, or months?

Thanks

I guess it still takes months. The new player with our own OS is under production. You may try it soon.
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