Fiio X1

[pamaury]

Hi,
yes there is work in progress but the port is not usable at the moment. I should upload something to gerrit soon if you want to follow progress.

[greatjack]

Hi,
yes there is work in progress but the port is not usable at the moment. I should upload something to gerrit soon if you want to follow progress.

I am a avid fan of the rockbox project as well as a solid java developer. Is there anyway I would be able to help you with the fiio X1 port?

[pamaury]

Hi,
there is work in progress here: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1527/1
At the moment the port is not usable but it's slowly taking shape, depending on my free time.

[asymsucon]

I have spare set of X3II and X5II which I wanted to sell, but it's inconvenient to sell perfectly working players in virgin condition at 50% of their original price due to the recent price drop, and no-one for one second consider the exclusion of silicone cases in new packages. It's kinda sad and even infuriating. So I may end up not selling them at all.
If that happens, would PCB photos help with anything?

[boardlord]

Hi,
there is work in progress here: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1527/1
At the moment the port is not usable but it's slowly taking shape, depending on my free time.

Hello Pamaury,

am I right to think that this port is for the X1 1st gen, not for the X1 II? If so, I'll have to hurry to buy a gen. 1 X1 because it will be replaced by the 2nd gen. model pretty fast... Thanks!

[pamaury]

Hi,
currently the port is for the X1 1st gen, but it should be relatively easy to extend it to the 2nd gen. For reference, the X1II is based on linux but we believe it would be simpler to do a native port and not use linux (for rockbox) at all. But at this point, I have to say I don't own a X1II and I haven't looked into how it works exactly. I'll try to document myself more and come back with some info.

[boardlord]

Thanks for the quick reply

Based on my previous experience, I'll stay with a model that has already shown some life (loooong time user of RB'd Clips, Clip Zips) - therefore I've ordered one of the last black 1st gen X1 from an online store, just to be sure! The 2nd gen model wouldn't give me any features that are a must over the 1st gen anyway

[boardlord]

Hi,
currently the port is for the X1 1st gen, but it should be relatively easy to extend it to the 2nd gen. For reference, the X1II is based on linux but we believe it would be simpler to do a native port and not use linux (for rockbox) at all. But at this point, I have to say I don't own a X1II and I haven't looked into how it works exactly. I'll try to document myself more and come back with some info.

So, the X1 arrived Until the RB port is functional, I'll have to use the original firmware of course. Can I update to the latest version, or are there any additional anti-tamper measures built into newer firmwares that could hinder rockboxing it (like the Kindles - an update took away the ability to downgrade firmware)? Many thanks!

[asymsucon]

I can't speak for X1 specifically, but X5II is fully downgrade-able and I'd suspect X1 too.

[boardlord]

I can't speak for X1 specifically, but X5II is fully downgrade-able and I'd suspect X1 too.

Thanks, but my concern was moot... My X1 already came with FW 2.0, so there wouldn't a newer version anyway.

But it is surely good to know that these devices are not locked down tight like Kindles! Thanks

[Massa]

If so, I'll have to hurry to buy a gen. 1 X1 because it will be replaced by the 2nd gen. model pretty fast... Thanks!

What (hardware related) is the difference between the 1st gen and the 2nd gen version of the X1?
 
Edit: ignore my above question - I found the specs (of course) at the wiki: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/FiioX1

Am I correct, when I say - there are no real differences?
(they just use another LCD model and another NAND - but no faster processor, different screen resolutions or similar changes?)
So why is it called "v2"?

[boardlord]

As far as I could gather, the biggest addition was Bluetooth, a touch-based "click-wheel" instead of mechanical and a separate jack for line-out. Smaller differences are a bit faster charging, an incremental update to the DAC (PCM5142-->PCM5242), and slightly smaller dimensions

[blubbblubb]

The v2 mentioned in the Wiki is still the Fiio X1 Gen 1.

The Fiio X1 Gen 2 is a new device not just some internal changes the consumer generally doesnt notice (like the Gen1 v2).

The biggest changes are mentioned in the post above.
Additionally it is supposed to be a lot slower while selecting tracks so im guessing there is also a different processor in there and the 2" TFT is apparently a lot sharper, so probably a different model as well.

Also i dont think there is a separate Line Out. Its just switchable between Headphone and Line Out in software like with the Gen1

[Massa]

As far as I could gather, the biggest addition was Bluetooth, a touch-based "click-wheel" instead of mechanical and a separate jack for line-out. Smaller differences are a bit faster charging, an incremental update to the DAC (PCM5142-->PCM5242), and slightly smaller dimensions

Wow! That are a lot of things!
@pamaury: and yout think it would be relatively easy to extend the ongoing 1st gen port to also support the 2nd gen?
Or did you mean the 1st gen second version which I mistakenly thought it would be the 2nd gen?

BTW, rockbox does not have a bluetooth stack implemented, or does it?

[pamaury]

Hi all,
the X1 2nd is not too different from the 1st gen, hardware wise (it definitely has the same CPU). However on the software side, it is totally different: it is running linux and does not use the same booting procedure. It is not clear to me yet how will proceed with the 2nd gen yet. After the X1 1st gen port is done, it is actually more logically to port to the X3 1st gen which is very similar (both hardware and software).