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Offline npod

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problem ipod classic 160 7th + usb from yamaha RX-a820 receiver
« on: February 01, 2015, 02:05:29 PM »
Hi,
I would like to know if I can use the usb connection from my receiver with Rockbox install.
I have try before Rockbox, and it worked fine, but with Rockbox, I didn't finf a solution, is it possible? what settings I need? or plugin or something else, or just not possible.
Thanks in advance for your help
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Re: problem ipod classic 160 7th + usb from yamaha RX-a820 receiver
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2015, 02:37:38 PM »
If you have already updated Rockbox to a current dev build (which is highly recommended - the version that comes with emCORE in particular is ancient), you should be able to use the player like a regular USB stick.

If your problem is that the unit enters USB mode when docked and hence won't play anything, this trick may still work.
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Re: problem ipod classic 160 7th + usb from yamaha RX-a820 receiver
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2015, 02:38:01 PM »
Could you confirm me what file I need, because I have try to launch the "rockbox-ipodvideo" without succeful, I think the last for my model. But I have found another from july which work correctly. With the new , I have a error message when it try to launch.

So could you confirm me what file I need:
- ClassicRockbox FOLDER => what version (if you have a link)
- installer-ipodclassic.ubi => what version (if you have a link)
- bootstrap_ipodclassic_itunes.exe
- something else?

I confirm I have the last version of the ipod classic 7th 160gb (slim)

Thanks if you can help me to confirm the version with link.
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Re: problem ipod classic 160 7th + usb from yamaha RX-a820 receiver
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2015, 02:42:05 PM »
Quote from: npod on February 02, 2015, 02:38:01 PM
Could you confirm me what file I need, because I have try to launch the "rockbox-ipodvideo" without succeful, I think the last for my model.

The Video is the 5G, you have the Classic (6/7G):

http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort
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Re: problem ipod classic 160 7th + usb from yamaha RX-a820 receiver
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2015, 02:25:56 PM »
I have install your last version (mine was from july 2014, not so old), and I have the same problem, my receiver see a usb connection when I plug and write "no device connected".
If I press "menu" when it start, same problem too.

what do you think about my version of "installer-ipodclassic-r859-20120102.ubi", is it the last one or not, I think I saw the v870, but I don't find a link to update it if necessary.

addition question, for the last ipod classic version 7th slim, what setting I need for battery capacity, 400, 500 or 850, i saw so many things and I would like to have the good settings.

thanks for you support
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Re: problem ipod classic 160 7th + usb from yamaha RX-a820 receiver
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2015, 05:12:24 PM »
You seem to be confused.

The version you're listing (installer-ipodclassic-r859-20120102.ubi) is an installer for emCORE, a bootloader, not a Rockbox binary.  That is not the way you update Rockbox. This will do nothing useful for you in this regard. emCORE does come with a version of Rockbox embedded in it, but this only serves to act as a form of recovery image to initiate a USB connection. It is heavily stripped, contains no codecs or plugins, and as such cannot play audio. It exists solely to provide a USB interface during the initial installation of emCORE to provide a means of updating the Rockbox binary on the device's data partition, and to provide a means of recovery in the event that the Rockbox image on the data partition should become corrupt or otherwise unusable. Nothing more.

To update Rockbox, you must install a Rockbox binary for your device. That link will always point to the most current version of Rockbox available for your device.

Now, a few other important distinctions.

IAP (iPod Accessory Protocol) support for this device is very limited. Only a very limited subset of accessories will function with this device under Rockbox. It is incredibly unlikely that the pairing of these devices would function as expected even if the device were able to enumerate.

It seems likely that your head unit is detecting that the device is an iPod via the USB VID/PID, and deciding not to treat it as generic removable storage. There is nothing anyone can do about this in an official capacity at this stage. It is possible to work around this issue, but given your confusion already, I do not advise going down this route at all.

You do not need to change the battery capacity setting at all. That setting only changes the estimated runtime metering, which is wrong anyway. The default setting is the correct capacity for your device, leave it as it is. This setting does not change the functionality of the device whatsoever.

And finally,

You are using a build that the Rockbox project considers to be "unusable", it has many quirks, bugs, and unimplemented features, and we state this clearly on our main page. We do not even offer any officially supported means for you to boot the binaries we produce. You were only able to do so by using a completely unsupported third party bootloader (emCORE). Neither Rockbox for the iPod Classic, nor emCORE, are intended to be used by the general public.


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Re: problem ipod classic 160 7th + usb from yamaha RX-a820 receiver
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2015, 01:51:14 AM »
Thank you for your explenation, so I need to redo the procedure to install your version of rockbox, and not only copy past the folder?
Or do I need to used another "emCORE version" to install the last version of rockbox?

and about the battery capacity?
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Re: problem ipod classic 160 7th + usb from yamaha RX-a820 receiver
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2015, 05:04:15 AM »
The Freemyipod documentation that you must have followed explains this pretty clearly.

You don't need to do anything with your emCORE version, once it is installed, a user will never need to update this unless explicitly instructed to do so. To update the Rockbox binary, simply extract the archive from the link I supplied in my previous post to the root of the iPod storage.

Regarding battery capacity, as explained in my previous post, you do not need to do anything. This setting only affects the estimated runtime, which under normal circumstances a user will never see, and which is incorrect anyway, besides which by default this is set to the appropriate value for your device. Just forget it exists. It is totally unimportant.


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