New Development Builds Will Not Allow USB Connection Clip Zip

[bbildman]

When I plug in the USB comment using 3.13 firmware, the USB works fine, with my Clip drives. Soon as I update to the newest build (10-09-2014 and 10-08-2014), the computer shows Rockbox connected, but no drives available for connect.

I reinstalled 3.13 and USB works fine.

Help?

[saratoga]

You can either stick 3.13 or use the Sandisk firmware for USB transfer.

[bbildman]

Yeah, I figured that, I'll stick to 3.13...as an aside, has this issue been reported before?? Thanks

[saratoga]

Yeah, I figured that, I'll stick to 3.13...as an aside, has this issue been reported before?? Thanks

Yes, there are a lot of random USB bugs.  Usually newer is more stable, but not always.

[bbildman]

You can either stick 3.13 or use the Sandisk firmware for USB transfer.

Hi, been thinking about your reply above. The reason I decided to try the daily build for the Clip Zip is because the following notation was posted on the Major Changes page::

"Major changes since version 3.13 (in git)
 2014-09-28: Improved battery life on the Clip v2, Clip+, Clip Zip and Fuze v2"

I figured I'd try it because of the battery life issue, but being I can't make a disk connection via the USB port with the daily build, I went back to 3.13.

And the reason I didn't keep the dev build and just use the Sandisk firmware for USB transfer was that each time I disconnect the Clip  (after adding or changing files with the Sana firmware) the Clip spends a considerable amount of time "refreshing" and I have a lot of files on the Sansa so it takes a while....whcih was one of the original reasons I switched to Rockbox.

Thanks anyway.

[Mihail Zenkov]

You have this problem in all case ?
1. Plug USB when player on.
2. Plug USB when player off.
3. When player off, press "select" (middle button) and connect USB.

[bbildman]

You have this problem in all case ?
1. Plug USB when player on.
2. Plug USB when player off.
3. When player off, press "select" (middle button) and connect USB.

Yes to 1 and 2, I will install the new build and try #3 and let you know, thanks

[bbildman]

You have this problem in all case ?
1. Plug USB when player on.
2. Plug USB when player off.
3. When player off, press "select" (middle button) and connect USB.

Ok, here's the results::

If I press the Select button (player off) while I connect, the Rockbox boot screen flashes for a second, then goes black, the laptop shows the Sansa Clip connected (Sansa ClipZ drive) and I can read the Internal memory of the clip, but the microdisk I have inserted is not available at all. When I connect the Clip Zip normally either on or off, the laptop reports a 6 USb device, Dirve I and J, but the device never boots into those drives even though it shows the "Connected" screen. And the usual little device icon (Safely remove Hardware) is not there

If I hold the left button, it of course boots into Original Firmware and I see both drives, but when disconnected, it stays in Original firmware mode, and takes forever to refresh.

Only the 3.13 Rockbox boots normally into my 2 drives (1 is the Sansa, the other is the microchip drive)

All I want is to be able to use a build that has the Improved battery life described in the recent additions.

[Mihail Zenkov]

What OS you use? Can you do test on another OS (if you can do test on linux, attach dmesg output) or on another computer?

[bbildman]

What OS you use? Can you do test on another OS (if you can do test on linux, attach dmesg output) or on another computer?

Windows 7 64 bit, my other laptop (same OS) does exactly the same thing.

Reverted back to 3.13, unless you all can come up with something that explains and fixes this.

Thanks

[bbildman]

You have this problem in all case ?
1. Plug USB when player on.
2. Plug USB when player off.
3. When player off, press "select" (middle button) and connect USB.

The only reason I have gone down this path is to be able to have the power enhancements active in the new builds.

Well, I finally found out a way to have installed most recent daily build and to allow a USB connection.

First off even the newest daily continues to disallow me from connecting to the USB port and have the laptop see it (I get a "6 USB device connected with drives I:/ and J:/", but no I: and J: show up at all).

The zip will charge ok, but I have no access to the contents of the zip or drive J.

So, what I CAN do is boot the device into original firmware (hold L button and connect) and then I DO get both drives. My complaint with doing that was when I disconnected, it continues in original firmware, and starts refreshing, which takes forever. So I hold the power key down for maybe 20 seconds while it is still connected to the USB port, which turns the power off, disconnect and then when I power on, it boots directly into Rockbox.

If you can figure out why the daily build refuses to connect correctly to the USB and have access to the zip and the microdisk drive, please post here. 3.13 works perfectly in USB mode.

Thanks again.

[Mihail Zenkov]

bbildman:
Can you check my latest build?
http://gdurl.com/c_OQ/download

[bbildman]

I copied your .rockbox directory over mine, and reconnecting it to my laptop usb port still give me the same message "connected to a 6 USB device (drives I and J)" and then never comes up with the computer being able to access the drive (microHD) or the Sansa Zip. I know this is a dev build problem because the same thing happens on my other laptop.

I guess I will simply recopy all my .rockbox files back to the Zip.



I reinstalled the 3.13 and everything is back to normal - the laptop recognizes the Zip and the drives.

[keyb_gr]

Could you try another theme on the Zip (maybe rockbox_failsafe for now)? For some odd reason, there appears to be an interaction with USB functionality in some cases. Old themes may also need an update.

I have had very few problems with USB on my Clip+' while using current builds. My old one would sometimes hiccup and freeze when plugged in while still powered off, the new one hasn't done that so far in spite of nominally the same bootloader version. Aside from that, they've been working splendidly, with no data corruption issues or anything.

[bbildman]

I installed the latest dev build for the ZIP (8a078d7) via the Rockbox utility, and then disconnected. Turned it off and on again, changed the Theme Setting to rockbox_failsafe, reattached to USB port, and get the same "connected to a 6 USB device (drives I: and J:) with subsequent no way to see the Sanza or the microHD drives....the computer does NOT recognize the device (drives)

Have no clue.

Back to 3.13 and all is well.

I am willing to keep on trying different methodologies, just keep them coming.

Can you tell me what I will gain by using a dev build for the ZIP....for instance, how much better is the battery use (slower drain) will I have if I use the dev build??

The workaround I CAN use if I use the dev build is to connect it, and then hold the power key down for 20 seconds or so (still USB connected) until it powers down. The hold the L select button while powering up so that it boots into OF, which the computer reads as ok. Then before I disconnect, I again hold the power button down until it turns off (so that I do not have to go through the interminable refreshing the OF insists on if I JUST disconnect with OF runninjg), then disconnect, and turn it on again...to which it boots into the dev build.

The only reason I would do that sequence would be if you can tell there are significant advantages to using the latest dev build over the 3.13

Thanks again for your help and time.

Bernie