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Mihail Zenkov:
Output stage based on op-amps. For change gain we should change negative feedback. If we rise supply voltage we don't have gain change. If we set voltage lower than op-amp have need, we have limit volume with huge distortion.

Another variant - get louder signal from DAC, but IMHO we get all possible from it (+6dB).

saratoga:

--- Quote from: Mihail Zenkov on December 28, 2014, 05:04:47 PM ---Output stage based on op-amps. For change gain we should change negative feedback. If we rise supply voltage we don't have gain change. If we set voltage lower than op-amp have need, we have limit volume with huge distortion.
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Thats true for a class AB amp, but do the class D amps in these devices work like that?  My understanding is that the gain is proportional to the supply voltage (since they're really just switching the supply on and off).


--- Quote from: Mihail Zenkov on December 28, 2014, 05:04:47 PM ---Another variant - get louder signal from DAC, but IMHO we get all possible from it (+6dB).

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You can do this by increasing the gain in the mixer stage, but it simply distorts due to the limited rail voltage on the headphone amplifier. 

Mihail Zenkov:

--- Quote from: saratoga on December 28, 2014, 05:44:33 PM ---Thats true for a class AB amp, but do the class D amps in these devices work like that?

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Are you sure about D class in this player?
I not familiar with class D but in this case we shouldn't have DAC and LDO. Also I not sure is phantom ground possibly on class D.


--- Quote ---You can do this by increasing the gain in the mixer stage, but it simply distorts due to the limited rail voltage on the headphone amplifier.

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I test this mode before and it have some problem but not sure about clipping. In any case this not have real sense as mixer worse audio quality.

404_user_not_found:

--- Quote from: Mihail Zenkov on December 28, 2014, 11:30:55 AM ---Can you try rise CVDD1 to 20 (in patch it 19), set CVDD2 to 112 and check battery runtime again?

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Crashed after some hours of runtime test.

Mihail Zenkov:
404_user_not_found:
Ok. Thanks!

saratoga:
Can you provide new test build for clip+ users with CVDD1=20 and CVDD2=113 ?

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