Installation / Removal > Rockbox Utility
iPod Classic 6G 160GB (2007): Questions about patches - experimental mods
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--- Quote ---l/ is there some way to move Rockbox ('.rockbox') to internal flash partition to boost the overall iPod performance?
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No. That's for the bootloader.
[Saint]:
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---c/ i would like to know more about patches - technics how to install them separately.
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See our wiki page on Working With Patches
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---<snip>...i installed typical build, not this experimental one! And as you can see inside of this experimental build patches are seperately - i guess they must be installed seperately: they are not involved inside of this builf. Check this rar: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b5xbw6cp4ikfxwn/AAAIMuTOM4XZtvC6RK1mXz0Oa/rockbox-ipod6g-9cb9f76M-140326.zip?dl=0 - the patches are in separate folder. So my question is if i can install those patches separately for my build and HOW. I ask mainly about those patches:
- crc.patch.20140326
- ipod6g-powermgmt.patch.20140326
- utf8.patch.20140326
Can you help, please?
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The version string in the build tells me very clearly that it is a modified build.
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Note the "M", after the 7 digit git version string (9cb9f76) tells us that the build is M(odified). If this were a clean, unedited binary, that M would not be present in the version string. I can't tell you which patches are included, but the build is definitely modified in some fashion.
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---e/ about deleting themes. If i delete .cfg files in "Themes" folder does it mean that other files (.wps and .sbs) related to themes in '.rockbox' root folder will disapear?
Is there some manager utility to maintain installed themes, fonts, languages, games and other plugins? I thought that this job will manage RockboxUtility but this programme is not managing these things. Is there something i can use for managing my iPod?
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Our fine manual explains this adequately. The iPod Classic has no manual currently, due to its unusable target status, but you may refer to the iPod Video manual as the two targets are largely identical except for a few features present on the iPod Video that are not yet implemented on the iPod Classic (recording, USB HID, etc.).
The relevant manual section in this case is:
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--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---g/ how do i change boot image? Sorry, i have no clue how to make it with source code. How?
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You would need to change the file in the source tree and compile your own Rockbox binary.
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---i/ i would like to ask also about settings of emCORE. Most of Settings i understand. Anyway i would like to understand more features involved in emCORE Tool menu. Is there some manual?
I am curios what is for "emCORE Console" and some emCORE Tools as "Run UMSboot", "Run Fallback image", "Clear Rockbox configuration", "Clear Rockbox database".
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The Freemyipod project, and in turn, emCORE, have absolutely nothing to do with Rockbox. The Rockbox project does not handle support for emCORE, and nor does the Freemyipod project supply support for Rockbox. Questions of this nature should be directed to the Freemyipod project.
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---j/ ok, i respect that Rockbox goes with different way and shuts down iPod completely. There is something good about that instead of 'deep sleep' and one second start made by Apple. Thanks for your note about that. Anyway in emCORE Settings i found a choice "Fastboot action". I have it disabled. Well, what will happen if i choose 'Enabled'. Will i get 'deep sleep' boot mode?
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No.
The fastboot setting governs what the iPod will boot into without requiring user interaction, allowing the user to bypass the emCORE main menu and boot directly into Rockbox, the emCORE console, UMSboot, etc. If one were to select Rockbox here, they would find the boot time to be markedly reduced by way of bypassing the emCORE main menu.
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---k/ i would like to ask about update of Rockbox. Can i do it manually, can i easily copy new build over the existing one (i.e. '.rockbox' folder over '.rockbox' folder)?
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Yes.
This link will always point to the most recent Rockbox binary produced by the Rockbox build system. You may simply download this file and extract it to the root of the iPod storage, allowing it to overwrite any and all files. After safely ejecting and disconnecting the device from USB, Rockbox will detect that the main binary has changed and prompt you to perform a soft reboot.
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---l/ is there some way to move Rockbox ('.rockbox') to internal flash partition to boost the overall iPod performance?
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No.
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---m/ i noticed some problem with charge status. When i plug my iPod to PC via original cable to high power USB port iPod do not show anything. I thought it will show automated charging screen where i can check charging status. But nothing is shown. I do not even know if my iPod is under charging process. When i start iPod then it seems that is charged. Well, how about that? If i want to charge it i have to start up my iPod?
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This device port is still in its infancy. There is a great many minor issues with it. There is a gerrit instance that enables proper charge detection for the iPod Classic devices pending review and commit currently.
I have no idea if I am parsing your question correctly. The device will charge, albeit very slowly (at a rate of 100mA), when powered down completely, but if my memory serves me correctly it will only do this if the current charge level is below 90%, and in turn it will only charge the device to around 90% of its capacity. This is a feature of the hardware, and neither Rockbox nor emCORE governs this behaviour.
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM ---And i also did note that battery icon is not "giffed" as on every phone example. Is there any way to fix all these matters, please?
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This depends entirely on the theme. Animated battery meters are absolutely possible, but its up to the theme author to implement this. Currently, it wouldn't be a lot of use for the Classic anyway, as proper charge detection (the only case I can image an animated battery icon being used) isn't currently implemented on this device.
[Saint]
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--- Quote from: X-Tech on August 31, 2014, 07:39:22 PM ---f/ about games. Well, it seems that most of them works, i guess those simple ones as "Rockblox" (anyway i can't check them all, there are too many of them). But i tried "Doom" game and it get stack on "Starting graphic engine". I did wait for two minutes and nothing happened, just black screen with this sentence. And no button is functional - it looks like freezed. I had to use hard restart (Menu+Select). So there is some bug i guess.
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Yes this is a known issue. The timer doom needs is not implemented on the 6G yet.
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Apparently the hardware timer that the user timer uses doesn't physically exist on the chip, so that's why it doesn't work.
If you REALLY want to play DOOM, there is a workaround in Gerrit that uses the Rockbox timer (much less precise, but working): http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/912
And trust me... Rockblox is not a "simple" game... :P
saratoga:
--- Quote from: X-Tech on September 01, 2014, 04:23:04 PM --- The point is that i installed typical build, not this experimental one! And as you can see inside of this experimental build patches are seperately - i guess they must be installed seperately: they are not involved inside of this builf. Check this rar: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b5xbw6cp4ikfxwn/AAAIMuTOM4XZtvC6RK1mXz0Oa/rockbox-ipod6g-9cb9f76M-140326.zip?dl=0 - the patches are in separate folder.
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haha ok if you think you know better than us feel free to ignore the answers you get in this thread.
X-Tech:
p.s.: to saratoga: i ignore you and your senseless post because it says nothing, it just show your override attitude. You try to harm this threat with your needless intrusion. Not everybody understand things with Rockbox like you do. And there might be someone who try to understand things - but this is what you do can t understand in your affection of wisdom. Instead of explaining something you push your ego and blame people for what they never said. Your obvious problem is that you read words around you with wrong interpretation. So do not react for next time, do not waste your time and keep your posts for someone else, thank you.
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