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fnadde42:
I have a Sansa Clip Zip and something does not seem to be as it should be. When I try to create a playlist via the playlist catalogue I come to the screen where I get to name the playlist. The naming process works as expected but there is no way to confirm my playlist. No matter how I try to figure out a combination of buttons to "confirm" there just does not seem to be possible. Am I missing something obvious here or is there something wrong with Rockbox here?

saratoga:
http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipzip/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-420004.1.3

Hold the select button to save. 

[Saint]:
Are you entirely certain this is correct?

I don't see any reason for the keymaps to differ in this regard between targets, and this is certainly not the way it works on any target I own.

I guess, since I have answered this question at least twice now, that I should update the manual in this regard.
Its apparent it is lacking, and the behaviour that the user needs to discover, is exceedingly non-obvious.

To save a file with the virtual keyboard, you need to be in "text edit mode" (as opposed to "character select mode"), meaning the cursor needs to be in the text field, and then the user must use the Play key to save. Holding select does nothing here, and pressing select acts as a delete function in text edit mode.

To summarize, make sure the cursor is in the text field, not the character selection field, and then use Play to save.


[Saint]

fnadde42:

--- Quote from: [Saint] on June 29, 2014, 08:28:51 PM ---make sure the cursor is in the text field, not the character selection field, and then use Play to save
--- End quote ---

So, I go into text mode (as pointed out with the square in the attached image) and press the "play" button (as marked in the image with a circle). When I do this, all that happens is that the marker jumps up from the text mode into character mode. It seems like the play-button is not working as a confirm button but as a navigation button to move the "cursor". Are you meaning another button when you say the "play" button?

[Saint]:
I have to apologize profusely here, I made a poor call expecting the keymaps to have any sort of consistency...

It turned out my memory failed me in this case, and I apologize for that.

It even turned out that I misremembered the key layout on the Clip(s) to start with. You were quite right, I did in fact mean another button, I recalled it being more consistent with the iPods, but Play and Menu are flipped, and as it turns out, it's neither of those keys anyway.

Anyway - I went digging, and, saratoga was absolutely right. I'm not surprised that he was correct (keymap tells me that it is indeed long select, whilst in the text edit field), but I am surprised at how inconsistently this is handled across targets.

I must apologize again, to both of you, my gut told me something and I ran with it without having the hardware near by to back it up. I should not have done so.

This has, however, gotten my rather motivated to try and breathe some consistency into the virtual keyboard keymap. I can't think of any good reason why it should be so different across targets. I shall also endeavour to actually document the virtual keyboard keymap in the manual, in its entirety.


[Saint]

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