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List of prooved compatible <Memory cards> vs <Players>
steak:
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For (me ::) & all those) who are using memory cards in target port classified as Stable or Unstable, it would be useful to gather in a single list which card(s) we are/have been using with no problem.
Ultimately what we want to see is the biggest (when affordable) memory card rockboxing in our players !!
Note : for those who plan to get a new player, Port/Target/Platform details can be found on rockbox.org but can be confusing as to wether or not a port is using memory card. The list will help then, otherwise use a search engine.
(reference link http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus)
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> 1- Ports with a memory card slot, alphabetical list (feel free to update) :
iAudio Cowon D2 ; Sandisk Sansa Fuze/Clip range ; Samsung YP-R0 ;
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> 2- Ports without a slot = EXPERT USER hacked Hard_Drive/Flash_memory ports (HD/Flash replaced with CF or ?), my guess alphabetical list (feel free to update) :
iAudio Mxx's/X5 ; iPod 1st~4th gen/color/video ; iRiver H10's/H1xx's/H3xx's ;
There might be a need for a CF adaptor list as well...
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> 3- Android smartphones/tablets with a slot
The main issue for android users is to find a compatible rockbox version (not a memory card). That depends on screen resolution.
(reference link http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/)
I have made a separate post for a list of compatible <Android devices> vs <Screen Resolution> here
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,48309.0.html
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!! UPGRADE STATUS !!
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For each single player (port/target/platform)
We can assume that when a type_+_size memory card has been updated to a new MAXIMUM_size, most likely every size below should be compatible with this single player.
Therefore on top of the latest post (reply) the list of players compatible with each single type_+_MAXIMUM_size should be updated.
That means if you want to report compatibility of a <single player> vs <type_+_size card> AND the size is inferior to the MAXIMUM previously reported for your single_player, DON'T PUT IT IN THE LIST, post a reply as in HEADER/2-
Each update to the list should mention specifications based on previous entries
> Bear in mind :
>> available memory card range change quickly
>> a single (specifications, source factory, batch) card can PROBABLY be sold under many different brands/names
>> a single brand+name card can PROBABLY match many different single cards
>>> therefore specifications in the list will be split in two = reference/other
Each entry will match a sublist and follow this structure
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>reference specs
>> size =
>> speed = upto
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
For each player, only if necessary, specify reformatting & new format
>>> =
>other specs (optionnal)
>> brand =
>> name =
>> produced in ~
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ALL LIST & SUB sorted by alphabet (A~Z) & numbers (decreasing)
Please only update with upgrades
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MAIN LIST
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>
(Players (ports/targets/platforms) with a slot)
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>microSD form factor>
currently available types :
SDXC = size upto 2Tb ; format (standard) = exFAT ; speed UHS Speed Class 1 & 3
SDHC = size upto 32Gb ; format (standard) = FAT32 ; speed Class 4~10 & UHS Speed Class 1
SD = size upto 2Gb ; format (standard) = FAT16 ; speed Class 2
(reference link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SD)
(links welcome to freeware tools for reformatting big SDHC or SDXC cards in WinXP, Vista, 7 & 8)
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>microSD form factor>SDXC>
SDXC = size upto 2Tb ; format = exFAT ; speed UHS Speed Class 1 & 3
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>reference specs
>> size =
>> speed =
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
For each player, only if necessary, specify reformatting & new format
>>> =
>other specs (optionnal)
>> brand =
>> name =
>> produced in ~
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>microSD form factor slot>SDHC>
SDHC = size upto 32Gb ; format = FAT32 ; speed Class 4~10 & UHS Speed Class 1
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>reference specs
>> size = 32Gb
>> speed = class 4
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
For each player, only if necessary, specify reformatting & new format
>>> = Sandisk Sansa Clip+ (speed is no issue, searching through database is SLOW with large storage over 4Gb (?))
>>> = Sandisk Sansa ClipZip (speed is no issue, searching through database is SLOW with large storage over 4Gb (?))
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>reference specs
>> size = 16Gb
>> speed = class 10
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
For each player, only if necessary, specify reformatting & new format
>>> = Cowon iAudio D2 (with SD form factor adapter)
>>> = Cowon iAudio D2 (with SD form factor adapter)
>>> = Sandisk Sansa Clip+ (speed is no issue, searching through database is SLOW with large storage over 4Gb (?))
>>> = Sandisk Sansa ClipZip (speed is no issue, searching through database is SLOW with large storage over 4Gb (?))
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>reference specs
>> size = 16Gb
>> speed = UHS Speed Class 1
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
For each player, only if necessary, specify reformatting & new format
>>> = Cowon iAudio D2 (with SD form factor adapter)
>>> = Sandisk Sansa Clip+ (speed is no issue, searching through database is SLOW with large storage over 4Gb (?))
>>> = Sandisk Sansa ClipZip (speed is no issue, searching through database is SLOW with large storage over 4Gb (?))
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>microSD form factor slot>SD>
SD = size upto 2Gb ; format = FAT16 ; speed Class 2
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>reference specs
>> size = 2Gb
>> speed = not specified
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
For each player, only if necessary, specify reformatting & new format
>>> = Cowon iAudio D2 (with SD form factor adapter)
>>> = Sandisk Sansa Clip+
>>> = Sandisk Sansa ClipZip
>other specs (optionnal)
>> brand = Sandisk
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>SD form factor>
currently available types :
SDXC = size upto 2Tb ; format = exFAT ; speed UHS Speed Class 1 & 3
SDHC = size upto 32Gb ; format = FAT32 ; speed Class 4~10 & UHS Speed Class 1
SD = size upto 2Gb ; format = FAT16 ; speed Class 2
(reference link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SD)
(links welcome to freeware tools for reformatting big SDHC or SDXC cards in WinXP, Vista, 7 & 8)
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>SD form factor>SDXC>
SDXC = size upto 2Tb ; format = exFAT ; speed UHS Speed Class 1 & 3
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>reference specs
>> size =
>> speed =
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
For each player, only if necessary, specify reformatting & new format
>>> =
>other specs (optionnal)
>> brand =
>> name =
>> produced in ~
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>SD form factor slot>SDHC>
SDHC = size upto 32Gb ; format = FAT32 ; speed Class 4~10 & UHS Speed Class 1
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>reference specs
>> size = 16Gb
>> speed = class 10
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
For each player, only if necessary, specify reformatting & new format
>>> = Cowon iAudio D2 (with SD form factor adapter)
>other specs (optionnal)
>> brand = oem
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SUBLIST :
>Memory card slot>SD form factor slot>SD>
SD = size upto 2Gb ; format = FAT16 ; speed Class 2
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>reference specs
>> size =
>> speed = upto
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
>>> =
>other specs (optionnal)
>> brand =
>> name =
>> produced in ~
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SUBLIST :
>Hacked HD/Flash memory>
(HD or Flash memory players hacked to replace HD/Flash mem by memory card)
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SUBLIST :
>Hacked HD/Flash memory>CF form factor>
I leave this part to those who know better and (?) find it useful
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>reference specs
>> size =
>> speed = upto
>> Players compatible upto & presumably inferior to this size
>>> =
>other specs (optionnal)
>> brand =
>> name =
>> produced in ~
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[Saint]:
The enthusiasm is appreciated, but I am unsure if it would be possible to create a harder to follow, or more confusing table of information if one tried.
I'm sorry, I really am, I can see this took a lot of effort.
Users essentially need to know these things:
- SD/SDHC/SDXC is electrically identical.
- On devices where we run as a firmware replacement, the limitations of the original firmware do not matter at all.
- On devices where we run as a firmware replacement, the card *MUST* be formatted as FAT32
- On hosted platforms (Android, et al) none of this matters and anything the host can accept is fine.
And...that's about it.
[Saint]
gevaerts:
You do know that flash card manufacturers change internals often without changing model numbers, right?
steak:
--- Quote from: [Saint] on May 29, 2014, 06:59:42 PM ---The enthusiasm is appreciated, but I am unsure if it would be possible to create a harder to follow, or more confusing table of information if one tried.
I'm sorry, I really am, I can see this took a lot of effort.
Users essentially need to know these things:
- SD/SDHC/SDXC is electrically identical.
- On devices where we run as a firmware replacement, the limitations of the original firmware do not matter at all.
- On devices where we run as a firmware replacement, the card *MUST* be formatted as FAT32
- On hosted platforms (Android, et al) none of this matters and anything the host can accept is fine.
And...that's about it.
[Saint]
--- End quote ---
Much ado about nothing...
... and yet : my latest Android smartphone (hosted platform) was delivered with a manual saying : SDHC up to 32Gb. I found the same confusing/misleading specs through internet searches.
However dumb I may be when it relates to understanding geek science, I was almost sure formatting any size of SDHC into FAT32 would make it compatible, so I bought a 64Gb microSD and... it worked.
It seems hard to believe for geeks but we human monkeys normally trust brand manuals, until they are prooved wrong.
404_user_not_found:
--- Quote from: [Saint] on May 29, 2014, 06:59:42 PM ---- SD/SDHC/SDXC is electrically identical.
--- End quote ---
I don't found an answer by using google. Can SDHC host read a SDXC version 4.0? I read on Russian version of Wiki that only SDXC version 3.01 supports legacy SDHC host, but SDXC version 4.00 doesn't supports a SDHC host. But there are no similar information on English version of Wiki. I don't mean about file system differences, I know that I should format SDXC to fat32.
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