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creating a simple dynamic playlist

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JdGordon:

--- Quote from: pmennen on May 15, 2014, 11:42:02 AM ---Ok ... wow. It now works following your instructions. But wait ... isn't this "create playlist" thing pretty much essential. Shouldn't it appear in the main menu so it could be discovered without a manual? Maybe I could have figured this out if I didn't have the manual ... but long press on playlist catalogue would certainly not be an easy guess. And with the manual, I had no chance. (Perhaps this manual should be deleted, as it may be doing more harm than good.) Don't thousands of people learn how to use this? This manual is dated yesterday ... but perhaps there is a more up to date manual that people are looking at? Otherwise I'm still confused about how people use this.

~Paul


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Creating a single playlist of every file on your DAP is a very niche feature, proof of that is the very few (if any?) complaints about it being moved. IIUC you do the same by just using the database or the file manager anyway.

pmennen:
> IIUC you do the same by just using the database or the file manager anyway.

I found that the way you described in your earlier reply (i.e. "create playlist") is the easiest.
The problem I had with the File manager method is that sometimes "Insert" would clear the current playlist before adding the selected files and at other times it would add the files at the end of the existing playlist. Which it was going to do always seemed completely random to me ... although I just figured it out. It depends on whether a song is actually playing or not. (But this isn't obvious since I rarely have the earbuds in when dealing with such issues.) I now recognize that the manual does describe this behavior ... a behavior I find quite odd and counter-intuitive. I think it should have "Replace", "Replace-shuffled", "Insert", "Insert-shuffled" at the top of the menu (along with the other selections) regardless of whether a song is playing. Replace would do the same as Insert except that the playlist is cleared first. To me this would make far more sense. Is there a "feature request section" where I can post my idea?

Also I tried creating the playlist using the Database as you suggested. That seemed to be even less intuitive. I never was able to create a playlist in Album order even when selecting "Album". It would put all the tracks into the playlist but in some strange order that remains a mystery to me.

~Paul

[Saint]:
The behaviour seems non-obvious if you are unfamiliar with the fact that all playback in Rockbox is playlist based, perhaps its not particularly obvious even then.

The options presented differ between the playback and stopped states because when there is no playback, there is no playlist to manipulate or replace.

Also, there is a feature ideas section. It used to be names feature requests but this was changed as it gave the impression that if someone made a request that someone else would actually do something about it.


[Saint]

pmennen:
Yes, the manual stresses that Rockbox is playlist based, although Rockbox's behaviour still often seems mysterious to me.

I can use a momentary push of the power button to stop the music from playing, and I can see that this changes the playlist options that I'm presented with. However I dispute your contention that there is no playlist to manipulate at that point. If I press the home button, the music will again start playing and if I view the playlist, it looks identical to what it was before I stopped the music. So the terms "Replace" and "Insert" that I proposed to distinguish the two possible operations still seems appropriate to me.

Even when I've paid for software, I don't expect that a feature that I requested would actually be implemented - and even less so for free software. Although it shouldn't be necessary, I understand why "feature requests" was relabeled as "feature ideas".

~Paul

[Saint]:

--- Quote from: pmennen on May 19, 2014, 06:07:21 AM ---I can use a momentary push of the power button to stop the music from playing, and I can see that this changes the playlist options that I'm presented with. However I dispute your contention that there is no playlist to manipulate at that point.

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A resume point is saved when playback is stopped, but when playback is stopped, there is no current playlist.


[Saint]

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