Car adapter mode: turn ON plus off

[smartadze]

Hi
I have a venerable old Archos Recorder V2 with an old (but unknown) version of Rockbox installed.  In "Car Adapter Mode", it not only pauses on power off (and turns off after 1 minute as set under "Idle"), but also powers on and resumes play when ignition power is restored (OFF+ON).  The perfect car companion :-)

Archos has died a noble death in service, and I am trying to substitute a Toshiba Gigabeat F40.  This player has the most recent version of Rockbox installed.  In Car Adapter Mode, the player pauses when ignition  is turned off, but will not power-on and resume as did the Archos (when ignition is switched on again) (OFF-No-ON).  This is also stated in the manual- it will pause (and idle-power-off), but must be manually turned back on.
The basis for my questions:

1) Is the OFF+ON behavior unique to the Archos (and not the Gigabeat)?  Perhaps, but the current manual for the Archos now says OFF-No-ON as well. 
Therefore,
2) Is the Off+ON behavior valid only for old versions of Rockbox?  How old?

Perhaps there is another factor.  Any help would be appreciated.
LB

[saratoga]

Its been so long that I can't remember how the gigabeat works.  Are you using the USB or the regular power plug to try and turn on the player?

[toehser]

I know the Clip Zip works for "on" with power under current Rockbox, so I'm guessing it just isn't something the Gigabeat will do?

[gevaerts]

It's been a while since I've seen a non-reflashed gigabeat, but IIRC that one goes into a flash bootloader charging mode when powered on (actually, the flashed rockbox bootloader that's somewhere on flyspray also does that...), so unless you're willing to develop and run potentially device-bricking experimental code, I'm afraid this is just the way it is for that particular model.

[smartadze]

I'm afraid this is just the way it is for that particular model.

I thought this as well, until I saw the reverse for my OFF+ON Archos - the manual for the latest Rockbox version says only 'Off+no-ON" whereas earlier manuals said "OFF+ON".  Made me wonder if the newer Rockbox code was the difference.

But you are correct - when power is applied, the Gigabeat goes to charging mode, not power on.  I hoped the Car Adapter mode would change that behavior - as it did for the Archos.  Might be worth a re-install to find out :-)

My question is: is it possible to download old versions of Rockbox?  I mean 2008 era?
Thank you for your learned assistance. Most appreciated.

[saratoga]

I think you misunderstood gevaerts. The actual Rockbox version has no influence on how the bootloader operates so while you can download older releases they won't change anything.

[aliciarohail]

If you want to insert a song into the currently playing playlist, then long hold select on the song to open the context menu, then select insert next* or queue next*  Queue will remove it from the playlist once it has been played, insert will leave it.