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Offline FCB38

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Sansa Fuze+
« on: November 27, 2013, 05:24:33 PM »
I just buy a new Fuze+. I had RockBox on other devices and I find this firmware great!
My problem is that I can read video with the original firmware but not with RockBox.
What kind of video a RockBoxed Fuze+ can read?
Thank you!
« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 06:44:16 PM by saratoga »
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Offline gevaerts

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Re: Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 05:31:05 PM »
Quote from: FCB38 on November 27, 2013, 05:24:33 PM
What kind of video a RockBoxed Fuze+ can read?

See http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer
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Offline FCB38

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Re: Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 06:16:23 PM »
Thank you for your answer but Fuze+ is not in the list.
I will try to find good tunes for my player.
Does it mean that I can't play AVC files like with the original firmware?
« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 06:33:20 PM by FCB38 »
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 06:46:04 PM »
Nope just the formats listed on that page.
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Offline FCB38

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 06:47:58 PM »
I have encoded a 16:9 video with WinFF but when I play it on Fuze+ it's on full screen => the aspect ratio isn't correct (320/240 => 1.333).
On my computeur it's OK.

Here is my command line in WinFF:
-vcodec mpeg2video -vf scale=320:240 -b:v 1000k -strict -1 -b:v 1000k -r:v 25  -aspect 1.777

Does "Mpegplayer" have a limitation and is obliged to stretch the video on all the screen?
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2013, 07:16:04 PM »
If you encoded your video to 320x240 then you specified 4:3. Maybe 320x180 was what you meant to use.
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Offline FCB38

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 07:45:45 PM »
OK, I finally find this solution too.
Does it mean that mpegplayer doesn't understand the parameter "aspect 16:9" or "aspect 1.777" in WinFF configuration?

Thank you for your help.
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Offline wodz

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 02:44:16 AM »
MpegPlayer does not scale the output at all.
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Offline FCB38

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2013, 03:18:58 PM »
If I use Rockbox and mpegplayer I loose the ability to read AVC videos.
Is there another player for Fuze+ and RockBox ?

Regards.
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2013, 09:48:09 PM »
No just mpegplayer.
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Offline FCB38

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 02:31:19 AM »
I'm trying to find the best way to encode mpeg-2 videos for Fuze+.
Mpeg-2 is less powerfull than avc. That's why I want to tune the mpeg-2 encoder to have best ration weight/quality.
I want to understand what do you mean by: "MpegPlayer does not scale the output at all.".
Does it mean that mpegplayer display only square pixels?
I want to crop some video in cinemascope format 2,55:1) and I want to keep the good aspect ratio. It's not so easy.

Regards.
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Offline Julian67

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2013, 04:55:17 AM »
You can't really see any quality benefit with high quality settings on such a small screen.  For example over about 400k video bitrate there is no visible change, only a bigger file size.  Even making AVC for use in original firmware won't give you a file that also looks high quality on a normal laptop/PC/TV screen.

When encoding for devices which can't scale or expand the picture according to aspect ratio it is much simpler and easier to use Mencoder than ffmpeg.  I wrote a script to use in Debian that will work equally well in any Linux or BSD or OS X or similar, so long as you have bash shell, MPlayer and Mencoder.  If you are using Windows bits of it might be useful in configuring a Mencoder GUI.

Brief summary from the script:

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# This script encodes video for playback on Rockboxed players.  It 
# automatically detects and applies good crop values.  It automatically
# scales the video to a suitable size.  It detects the audio type in the
# source video and transcodes it only if necessary.  There are options
# to make sample encodes (tests), to specify output directory, to
# disable autocropping and to choose higher quality encoding.
# Run the script with no options or arguments for some short
# instructions & read the comments at the end of the script.

The script can be found at http://pastebin.com/Vp3fTdBu

I have to admit that I rarely use it because the Fuze+ and other Rockboxed players don't hold much appeal to me as video players as I have a 4.3" screen Android tablet for this that can play 720p.
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Offline FCB38

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2013, 08:33:34 AM »
OK Julian67.
In fact you're right. The little screen a Fuze+ can't do e real difference between good and bad encoding.
Your script seems to be very interesting but I'm on Windows. Is it possible to use this kind of script on Windows?
If not I'll use a GUI for Mencoder.
Regards.
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Offline Julian67

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Re: Sansa Fuze+
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2013, 11:05:08 AM »
I'm not sure this could work as it is in Windows in cygwin. I think you would be better off using a Mencoder GUI and deciding any audio or crop options on a case by case basis.
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