Creative ZEN X-Fi

[robertdundee]

Thanks, after the device loads it goes to the recovery  mode. After that shall I disconnect and reboot?

[pamaury]

Ok, let me ask clearer question:

• does the device boot without plugging usb ? If not, use sbloader to get the recovery menu and wait until battery is charged
• does the device boot straight to recovery menu (as opposed to boots the OF or Rockbox) ? If not, you need to send a new firmware to the device, use sendfirm to do that

[robertdundee]

The device boots straight to recovery menu after sbloader is executed. The device does not  boot without usb plugged
In the pc it says that the storage media is 60 mb. When I try the sendfrm the output is "Error occured during sending". Iam   going to use the sbloader again and leave it charging for a while. Thanks again!

Device is fully charged. I ran the sbloader booted into recovery mode. Then disconnected  from the usb and selected reboot.  The screen went white. Repeated the whole procedure of rebooting from the recovery menu and the screen went yellow. After repeating again and selecting reboot the screen went red. It is impossible to access recovery menu using the play on buttons

[robertdundee]

I have tried everything. At reboot of Recovery Mode the screen changes color and then the unit shuts down

[pamaury]

That sounds very strange, could you come on IRC (http://www.rockbox.org/irc/), that would greatly speed up the discussion. My pseudo is pamaury, I'm usually online the whole day (french time).

[robertdundee]

Many thanks. Sure ,  I will log tomorrow.

[RufusA]

Having had my Clip Zip (and 128GB microsd card) stolen, I dusted off my old 8GB Creative X-Fi to see if I could Rockbox it.

Firstly - many thanks Amaury for your excellent work (as ever). I now have a functioning rockbox player again

A couple of questions:

1) I notice you updated the Rockbox homepage yesterday to move X-FI to stable port status. What would I need to do to use the stable version rather than the Dev one from the wiki page?

2) I'm still getting a lot of hangs when booting - aka "Black Screen of Death" you alluded to in reply #4.  Has the fix for the Zen been ported to the X-Fi or do I just have flakey hardware?

Thanks

[saratoga]

The development builds are the only builds. We just consider them stable enough for non experts to use.

[chrisjj]

1) I notice you updated the Rockbox homepage yesterday to move X-FI to stable port status.

What change took it to stable?

BTW, still "This port is still unstable, use it at your own risks."  here http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENXFiPort .

[viggen66]

I have both Zen X-FI and Zen, I have installed Rockbox on both devices, but is better to use the Zen instead of the X-FI in the meanwhile, I guess Zen is stable and X-FI is not.

[chrisjj]

> I guess Zen is stable

The last build I tried was unstable.  About one in five RB start-ups fails with a BSoD, requiring reset. And sometimes plugging USB causes BSoD.

I haven't seen mention of a subsequent update fixing this.

[pamaury]

Hi,
we are going to do a release and I decided to make the X-Fi stable because I didn't hear any recent complain about its stability. In particular I tought the lcd issue was fixed on the X-Fi (apparently not). I know the LCD problem persist on the Zen which I was I kept it in unstable.

@RufusA: on the black screen issue: does it only happen when booting or also sometimes when backlight is turning on and off? I will post a RC bootloader in this thread tonight. If you report that the lcd still has issues, I will downgrade the X-Fi to unstable.

[chrisjj]

> we are going to do a release and I decided to make the X-Fi stable

How did you make the X-Fi release stable? Or do you mean you just added label "stable" to the existing version?

> because I didn't hear any recent complain about its stability

Absence of recent complaint doesn't make it stable.

I reported it unstable on the last build I tested, and I don't see any fixes since.

So I didn't repeat my report. The mods here get shirty about repeated complaints.

> In particular I tought the lcd issue was fixed on the X-Fi (apparently not).

If there has been any attempted fix, please say and I will test.

I don't mean to criticise your work. Thanks for your great work here.

[pamaury]

Hi,
your last comment was 2 years ago. I just made the move and waited to see if people complain (which works pretty well).
So it's a good thing you stepped in There were many attempts to fix ZEN lcd and they share a lot of code. I think so
people reported success on the X-Fi at the time.
Anyway, I stick to what I said: I will post a RC bootloader tonight so you can test it and make a decision.

[RufusA]

@RufusA: on the black screen issue: does it only happen when booting or also sometimes when backlight is turning on and off?

To date I've only encountered it when booting, never after unlocking, but have only been using the device in earnest for a week.
For example this morning it took 6 attempts to boot before it successfully launched Rockbox (although this is unusual, normally 1 in 3 attempts fail).
Most failures are a black screen after the creative logo has flashed on the screen for the 2nd time. When showing the black screen, the power led is lit green, but the menu and power slider are unresponsive and the only option is the reset button.
The other failure is a white screen immediately after the loading firmware... executing message appears on the screen - again reset of player needed.

I will post a RC bootloader in this thread tonight. If you report that the lcd still has issues, I will downgrade the X-Fi to unstable.

I'll give this bootloader a try after posting. I'll also try and see if there is any pattern in the boot failures.

Thanks again for all your assistance.