IPod Classic 7th gen

[user88]

After My thread here and two nights without sleep I finally RBoxed my new IPOD
It happened after trying all the computers at home and finally on the oldest pc it finally opened me the dfu partition.
I suspect that maybe if u leave the reseted and connected IPOD it will finally enter DFU (cause it had some delay after connecting it to MY laptop).
waiting to try it after all my music transfers.
I post this topic to maybe to help some people in my past situation - statistically from all the research i had done there are lot difficulties with this issue...
I still realize there is work to be done - at first look there is a lot potential to this piece of hardware:)
I will only conclude that i almost bought a cowon d20 instead of another sansa (in addition to the iPOD) but worried the interface won't be friendly enough without RB. (besides I have pretty big library of songs and preferred the extra disk space).
Hope others will easier time rBoxing their POds
 
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I want to add to more points to this thread
1- the transfer rate of songs 10 MB/s is pretty tripple than i had in sansa
2- can anyone cue me how to add themes or if its possible in the player mentioned above

(3)

I have another question regarding the thread maybe not the right forum- Can I Increase Text size in the player mentioned above.
I messed a bit with themes and they don't seem to work well.
In general the player produces pretty good sound,
it's a bit big but i think ill start using it, and maybe buy another one sometime
tried charging it- there is some issue  - the time remaining isn't calibrated and I couldn't see if it's still charging...

think I summarized my adventure
hope to see the work done on this IPOD (after all it's on your to do list) unfortunately i have not enough knowledge ect' to contribute to the software or whatever

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What should I select in the Battery capacity option- its selected 400 mAh and in dunno if its the capacity...

[[Saint]]

Set it to anything you like, really. It governs no useful information whatsoever on this device presently.
(It only effects the estimated runtime, not the displayed capacity of the battery, and even if the battery capacity were set correctly (550mAh is the default value) it would still be wrong)

So, yeah - just forget about it.


[Saint]

[user88]

I have some weird option its 500 mAh max- is my rockbox out of date?

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Started another sleepless adventure - tried to put .rockbox of the 6gen from your site and not emcore
seemed all was doomed but on the other hand i managed to enter dfu mode from my laptop and seemed to be fixed

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I have another thing maybe to put in to do list
after i copied my songs to the pod i rearranged them within it, and it shows me I use only 4 GB what is way not.
thinking of recopying them later

[[Saint]]

We don't actually have a To-Do list, at least not one that any users have a say in.

I'm not sure what you're asking with your latest "request". We cannot prevent against file corruption from incorrect unmounting or user error.


[Saint]

[user88]

Got it, I didn't know about the edit function
In conclusion My only advice to Ipod Install, if it interests some one, is to stay on one machine and one OS and to mess with the IPOD including restoring it with the ITUNES and then uninstalling it.
My impression it enters DFU mode quite when it wants.
 the latter thing about the FS is i think the usb hub should be turned off power management option, but in any case your files aren't lost just copy the rest of them and say to avoid replacing or keeping both.

edit: last issue(hope) had to compare the num of dirs matched (and copy the missing)
edit2: if u press the select button (in info) it recalculates the space to the correct one
(all these probably are documented somewhere but I still wanted to share it )

And another edit (never ends) - not to mislead anyone who intends to purchase the mentioned above POD it doesn't have radio
 (not very crucial if u use it only to browse/play songs) so I really don't know if it very outweighs the compact sansas. (I had several of them so I decided to try some kind of change). editing this post without special aim, just thought it helps somehow.   

edit (who counts): finally updated to the latest release from your page hope it'll improve battery life

I decided to play with it a little more and the conclusions are that u need itunes with a file bootstrap_ipodclassic_itunes.exe and not bootstrap_ipodclassic.exe
and in addition u need to disconnect the device after u copied the .ubi from the my computer and not the bottom ruller where was the start button.
in whole I am satisfied already above a month with my ipod except I wanted to be more sure that I could reinstall It

and another question if someone follows - what can I do if a pixel is stuck (always blue) on my pod, i read that applying a bit pressure solves the problem, and it is, but i think its a bit risky?

[soap]

Do Not reply to yourself five times in a row.  Modify your previous post.

[smslike123]

I’m trying to install rockbox on an iPod Classic 160 GB 7g and have not been successful. This question may be better suited for freemyipod but this forum is much easier to access. Hope you guys don't mind the request for help.
 I performed the following steps:
1.   Went to freemyipod.org and followed their instructions for installing emCORE
2.   Killed all Apple services
3.   Ran bootstrap_ipodclassic_itunes.exe
4.   Drive called "UMSboot" appeared
5.   Download the "installer-ipodclassic.ubi" file from the emCORE Releases page and saved it to "UMSboot" volume
6.   Ejected volume “UMSboot”
As soon as I ejected the iPod the following 3 lines of test appeared on my iPod screen.
1.   Loading UBI file
2.   Rearranging files
3.   Booting UBI file
I waited 15 minutes and the status never changed.  I reset my iPod and tried 2 additional times with the same results. NOTE: When I performed – (Press and hold the menu and select buttons for between 10 and 15 seconds - click here for a how-to video. The iPod will show an apple logo after about 5 seconds, keep holding the buttons until it seems to turn off completely The display of your iPod should now stay black, and a new USB device called "Apple Recovery (DFU) USB Driver" should connect to your PC.) I did receive an error message – Device IOControl:Error 31.  I went to device manger\portable devices\UMSboot and it stated “This device is working properly” so I continued with the process.
 
Any suggestions as to what I’m doing wrong or what the problem is?

[user88]

the only thing I can suggest is to open ITUNES so it restores your IPOD back to factory settings
and try again,
be sure you downloaded the latest emcore release
another point i already mentioned in the thread is to eject it from my computer and not the bottom toolbar.

hope you will succeed

p.s after the guys at emcore irc channel didnt answer me i burrowed in their irc archives and they said to install linux which i DO NOT recommend.

in conclusion I guess
1. if after reseting apple logo appeared you didn't install the emcore things right
2.read my post from the begining regarding the latest release and the ejection.

be sure you have the latest ITUNES its necessary for the restore.

As I replied In another thread I can't point out the problem because I messed with the first installations some days including uninstalling and reinstalling ITUNES.

but except playing with it a little more i cant give better advice

I only can say that rockbox on IPOD 7th gen is possible just sometimes (the first times) its a bit hard to figure out what went wrong with the installation.
As for me I use it already for already a month with all the benefits of RB and there are lot of them...
hope I didnt say here anything wrong (from some kind of legal or other aspect).(and it remineded me that if I am not wrong you should have some kind of legal screen in ITUNES and in the emcore software that says all the stuff they are not responsible to (demage ect( but as I said for me it works fine and I am very satisfied and hope you will solve your instalation issue too)))
The long reply Is because It happened like that.

if you can't solve the problem in two days consider maybe asking again with different description...
I reply only because it appeared In my email

[[Saint]]

p.s after the guys at emcore irc channel didnt answer me i burrowed in their irc archives and they said to install linux which i DO NOT recommend.

Don't you think that the developers of the project in question know what they are talking about?

Fact is, Windows installation for emCORE is a royal pain in the ass...fraught with chances for a user to screw it up at every turn.

The linux instructions, however, "Just Work".

Its up to you...keep fighting with Windows, or, take the advice of the project developers. Not a very tough call if you ask me.


People need to get over the idea that linux is somehow complicated, or scary, or difficult.
Especially in this instance as all the difficulty faced is because of the choice of operating system used.


[Saint]

[user88]

As for me I already installed and reinstalled the RB firmware with emcore about 4 times on windows just to understand what was wrong.

Linux as far as I know Is a great OS especially the redhat I think (dont grab me on the word) It is good for a big spectrum of tasks.

and all computer science people probably know it well, I too had one installed and have some inferiority complex I dont have time/knowledge to handle it.

besides the ubuntu I tried to install didnt have some drivers for my dell laptop and It stuck me.
Also using virtual machines didn't work for me well.

I went from a start point that the one who wants to install it is similar to me and I do think installing any new OS takes time literally and can take some other effort hence the quote you gave from my reply.

I do think however its my education gap I dont know to use linux especially without gui (I mean entering the commands in the command prompt or however they call it (i only remember you can use pipe | to "glue" two commands)).


in conclusion if you are computer guru linux is a must for you but i still think that most of the people won't install another OS on theyer home computer which probably came with windows

dont want to continue this argument because I really dont understand much in all this. and sorry it touched a painfull point (Besides reinstalling windows was a big pain too and took not little time after the ubutu messed with the drivers (however if i had more time maybe I could learn deeper This linux system which frankly seemed pretty fine exept the driver issues it even was similar to win7 from some gui aspects))

In general however I do think win7 Is easier then linux If you dont need to use linux for special computer tasks which win7 may really be harder to handle... (or in some cases impossible (luckly not this one (again don't want to continue arguing because of the arguments I gave above (That I don't know this field well))))

and you may after all be right with your reply:)

[[Saint]]

You're right, a user almost certainly doesn't want to install a secondary operating system...luckily, they don't have to.

If you can burn a CD, or write an image to a USB removable disk, you can use <insert_most_linux_flavors_here> without touching any of the data located on the host machine. Reboot, back to normal. Magic.

I didn't comment here to argue possible scenarios about what a user may or may not want to do, however.

I commented in this thread to make it clear that if the developers of the project in question make a suggestion regarding an operating system to use, it is wise to take that advice, regardless of your feeling about the OS in question.

You've been lucky, you made it through, that's great - other people are not that lucky, and, believe it or not the suggestion was made because it does indeed drastically reduce the level of difficulty and possible fail cases.


[Saint]

[user88]

didn't understand the <insert_most_linux_flavors_here> thing if it's easy and reliable way to start linux it is good to know about (if you don't bother to reply an explanation)

In broader look I've just looked through an IT forum and in the message from the moderators they kinda warn not to start arguments microsoft against linux beside some other tips. maybe its relavant to this thread and forum in general.

I touched two things and as you probably see iv'e nothing against linux except the inferiority complexes i dont master it (and as far as I know it has far more options for computer experts to play with).

I replied because it appeared in my e-mail I think this topic is close to be concluded.

[[Saint]]

didn't understand the <insert_most_linux_flavors_here> thing if it's easy and reliable way to start linux it is good to know about (if you don't bother to reply an explanation)

The answer to this question is a Live{CD|DVD|USB}.
This allows a user to launch a secondary operating system without installing anything at all to the host, or modifying the host file system at all.

In broader look I've just looked through an IT forum and in the message from the moderators they kinda warn not to start arguments microsoft against linux beside some other tips. maybe its relavant to this thread and forum in general.

You seem confused.
It is as thought you are insisting there is an argument here, when there simply isn't one.

This is not a question of "Operating system A is better than operating system B", not at all. Nor am I attempting to make it so, if I was, it wouldn't be in any doubt. It is simply a case of using the best possible tool for the job, as suggested and recommended by emCORE's core developer(s), and frankly the right "tool" for this job is most definitely not a Windows variant.

This has absolutely nothing to do with favouring a particular operating system. It is not fanboyism. It is just a plain fact that the Windows installation instructions (for both possible methods) in incredibly convoluted (from necessity) when compared to the very straightforward Linux installation instructions, and it so happens that these steps present many additional points of failure to the user.

So, naturally, when users come to us for support via Freemyipod's support channels we are going to suggest the most straightforward and likely to succeed method, which involves Linux.


[Saint]

[user88]

The link you gave is what I used in the first place from another site but thanks anyway (just checked it more thoroughly (the usb option (maybe it skipped the step of leaving the host without change))).
Maybe the second quote you gave was little maglomaniac from my side.
Let's agree that Linux is great OS just deleted the end of the sentense because I really got confused.

[AlexP]

It is nothing to do with Linux being a great OS or not, or Windows being a great OS or not.  It is purely that in this particular case, Linux is the better tool for the job.

If you wanted to dig a hole in the ground, you would choose a spade not a hammer, but there would be no need to argue about which was the better tool overall, a spade or a hammer.