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Troubles with a Ipod Classic 6th gen
[Saint]:
It seems you have an iPod 6G (auto-detection is based on USB V/PID and I'm really not sure how this could fail), so your issues make perfect sense.
Its really important that you know which device you're talking about and articulate that clearly to those trying to assist you.
Currently, there is no way to install Rockbox on this device with any Rockbox sanctioned tools (which seems contradictory since we offer a binary in a semi-public location but offer no way of installing it, I know...its difficult to explain briefly). Installation relies solely on the Freemyipod Project's "emCORE" loader, which is completely unsupported as far as Rockbox is concerned. There is currently no supported installation method from Rockbox and there is unlikely to be one in the very near future.
It is also important to note that emCORE/Rockbox installation *will* erase *all* data on the device. So, backup anything you don't want to lose during installation. Another thing to note is the various missing features from this port, such as original firmware dual-boot (installation actually removes the Apple OF completely), recording, USB HID, and FM. If any of those features are important to you, this port is not for you.
[Saint]
syd:
heh, just a minute before you wrote i restored ipod in itunes. After reading your post I went to EmCORE and I holded Menu+Select. Windows showed the Unknown devices. I tried it once more but now my ipod stays down. How the hell shall I turn it back on?
edit.
Ok - it's back! For a minute my heart stopped.
edit2.
I've tried again. Holding the buttons just turn it off. Maybe I miss something?
If I hold Menu+Select for like a minute my iPod turns back on and says 'Connected". (Nothing like "Apple Recovery (DFU) USB Driver" on my pc screen)
[Saint]:
The emCORE installation guide I linked to in my prior post gives clear instruction for how to enter DFU mode, even including a video of the process.
[Saint]
syd:
Ok, I tried again.
I got to the point with "64MB-sized UMSboot partition". I put there the "installer-ipodclassic-r859-20120102.ubi" file. Restart the iPod, then it's back to the regular apple system.
I've tried then to instal rockbox by "RockboxUtility" ("successed"). After restart nothing happened. I've tried again with the .ubi file (after restart it's gone!)
I'm a little bit confused. There's no Rockbox for 6g, but there're some 6g Ipods with Rockbox.
The Rockbox utility shows possibility to choose iPod 6G in the list but it's "blocked".
Also the Rockbox manual shows 5.5G compatybility but in the menu there's only 4th, 5th and 6th Gen.
Did I miss something?
The bootloader in Rockbox Ulitity menu is "not needed" but I guess I have to put it with force with EmCORE on that special 64MB-partition.
Why after putting it there it's gone after restart?
Maybe there's a way to put then rockbox without restarting the iPod which deletes the .ubi file?
edit. Restarting directly to disk mode after the 64-MB-partition mode also allows to instal Rockbox with Rockbox Utility, but the effect is still the same (restarting to regular system, the .ubi file's gone, on iPod partition there's .rockbox folder which does nothing)
[Saint]:
You really need to come talk to us in IRC in #freemyipod-support on Freenode so myself or another can walk you through it.
--- Quote from: syd on October 30, 2013, 12:56:59 PM ---Ok, I tried again.
I got to the point with "64MB-sized UMSboot partition". I put there the "installer-ipodclassic-r859-20120102.ubi" file. Restart the iPod, then it's back to the regular apple system.
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Nothing in the installation guide mentions restarting the iPod at this point. One should safely eject the device, at which point the installer should take over.
--- Quote from: syd on October 30, 2013, 12:56:59 PM ---I've tried then to instal rockbox by "RockboxUtility" ("successed"). After restart nothing happened. I've tried again with the .ubi file (after restart it's gone!)
--- End quote ---
Nothing in the installation guide mentions doing this.
--- Quote from: syd on October 30, 2013, 12:56:59 PM ---I'm a little bit confused. There's no Rockbox for 6g, but there're some 6g Ipods with Rockbox.
--- End quote ---
These are people who manage to successfully follow the directions given in the Freemyipod emCORE installer guide.
--- Quote from: syd on October 30, 2013, 12:56:59 PM ---The Rockbox utility shows possibility to choose iPod 6G in the list but it's "blocked".
Also the Rockbox manual shows 5.5G compatybility but in the menu there's only 4th, 5th and 6th Gen.
--- End quote ---
The port for the 5 and 5.5G iPods have been unified for some time now, but this doesn't concern you as you don't have either of these devices.
--- Quote from: syd on October 30, 2013, 12:56:59 PM ---Why after putting it there it's gone after restart?
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The installation doesn't expect you to restart the device at all, so, when you restart everything that was in the UMSboot volume is blown away, as this is a RAMdisk. This is equivalent to forcibly exiting the installer.
--- Quote from: syd on October 30, 2013, 12:56:59 PM ---Maybe there's a way to put then rockbox without restarting the iPod which deletes the .ubi file?
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Yes, indeed there is. In fact, installation relies on it. When the directions given in the installer are followed verbatim, it will succeed.
[Saint]
PS: "Installing" Rockbox on an iPod is simply extracting an archive to the root of the device which will always succeed if you can write to the volume, but without the bootloader (emCORE in this case, which Rockbox Utility cannot install nor remove and offers no support for as mentioned previously), its useless.
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