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Offline luisdent

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clip zip sd playback question
« on: July 13, 2013, 04:09:35 PM »
I was wondering if anyone call tell me if I can put a 128GB micro sd card of some type in my sansa clip zip?

Assuming this is possible, would there be any downfalls?  Is there any limit to how many songs I would be using?  I would probably be using 256aac files, which I'm using right now with internal memory.  Maybe lossless files if the next few questions can be answered...

If I swap between two 64gb cards or two 128gb cards, can I use the file browser so there is never a database refresh?  Would it allow me to browse everything on the card?

Basically, I want all of my music on my player/cards.  I'm probably going to use one or two cards with aac for now and if they drop in price and get bigger, move to lossless.  Please let me know if this is possible and what I should be aware of.  I don't mind using file browser and simply organizing my music before transfer...
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Offline saratoga

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2013, 04:26:00 PM »
128 GB uSD cards don't exist yet, but when they do they should work just fine.
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Offline luisdent

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2013, 09:52:06 PM »
Darn.  You're right.  I searched amazon and it mixed a normal sdxc card in with the micro card results.  Oh poop.

Is there any downfall to using two 64gb cards?  If I switch the cards will I have to refresh the database?  Or can I just organize folders and always browse with the file browser?  Will I hit a file count limit or something?
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Offline luisdent

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2013, 11:32:01 PM »
What about something like this?  http://dx.com/p/sd-to-microsd-transflash-card-converter-module-27001 with a 128gb SD card?  Would that recognize the card?
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Offline saratoga

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 01:58:15 AM »
Assuming thats just a passive adapter that makes the connectors fit, it should work fine. 
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Offline ZincAlloy

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 07:23:05 AM »
Maybe you better wait until 128GB MicroSDXC cards come out. Can't be that long..
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Offline luisdent

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 12:04:08 PM »
Cool.  I might try it.  When are the 128 cards coming out?
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Offline ZincAlloy

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 03:25:16 PM »
That is a mystery.  8)
Soonish, if this internet rumour turns out to be reliable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292763
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Offline luisdent

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2013, 12:36:26 AM »
are there any file limits though?  can i put 40,000 songs on it?
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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2013, 02:02:37 AM »
Quote from: luisdent on July 14, 2013, 11:32:01 PM
What about something like this?  http://dx.com/p/sd-to-microsd-transflash-card-converter-module-27001 with a 128gb SD card?

Are you sure you want a full size SD card (which is around the same size as the Clip Zip itself :P) hanging off your player by a thin, brittle ribbon cable...?


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Offline Serenity

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2013, 10:50:53 AM »
Quote from: luisdent on July 13, 2013, 09:52:06 PM
Is there any downfall to using two 64gb cards?

Formatting them to FAT32 is a little tricky sometimes (and you will lose the SDXC speed, which isn't a big issue). I've had two cards work and one fail on me. You won't hit a file number limit or anything--Rockbox plays nicely with them.  I always use the file browser, so I can't speak for the database, but I'm assuming if you switch cards you will have to refresh the database.
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Offline saratoga

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2013, 12:07:42 PM »
Its not so much that you lose any speed, its just that in theory some SDXC devices can operate at higher speeds than SDHC devices, although in practice I don't think this is often the case.  Most seem to operate much slower than the standard is in theory capable of.
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Offline luisdent

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2013, 08:27:59 PM »
O.k. Thanks.  So it sounds like essentially no file limit issues and the speed is irrelevant to me.  I don't mind waiting a few seconds for a song to load or something.  I do like gapless though.  I didn't even check if the clip zip rockbox could do that?

I just went out and bought a 64gb micro card for now (until they make a 128gb).  I hope it works. :-P  I got a sandisk ultra microSDXC UHS-1 card.  It's all they had at best buy, and I thought I read SDCX works.  If not I'll return it and get a different one online, but I wanted it for my vacation in a few days.

I read you needed to make it fat (no problem), but it came as extFat.  I know that is a different partition/format type, so I assume I need to make it actual "fat" or "fat32"?  I'll give it a whirl...  Wish me luuuuck.  (i looooove rockbox by the way)
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Offline luisdent

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2013, 09:22:42 PM »
Quote from: luisdent on July 16, 2013, 08:27:59 PM
I read you needed to make it fat (no problem), but it came as extFat.  I know that is a different partition/format type, so I assume I need to make it actual "fat" or "fat32"?  I'll give it a whirl...  Wish me luuuuck.  (i looooove rockbox by the way)

Er, never mind.  I just found this.  Please disregard that part of the question. ;)

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Re: Technical question about Sansa Clip+ micro SD cards and OS displaying capacity
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The Sandisk firmware allocates enough memory for less then 8000 songs in it's database (I think like 5000-6000 usually fit depending on tags).  It'll happily read 64GB and larger cards though, and so will rockbox.

Rockbox doesn't try to load all the tracks metadata at once, so there is no limit on the number of files it can play.

That said, we don't support xFat, so you'll need to format fat32 (search the forums someone asks about this every couple days).

What makes you say that? ;) hahaha
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Offline luisdent

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Re: clip zip sd playback question
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2013, 03:23:47 AM »
I'd like to report that I've been happily using a 64gb card formatted to fat32 full of music with no issues.  woohoo!  Bring on the 128gb cards!
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