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Offline CT71

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Choppy scrolling
« on: April 07, 2013, 09:15:25 PM »
Hopefully someone can help me with this.  I've googled it, and I just can't find a solution to it.  I am a first time downloader, and everything was working fine until about 30 minutes into my initial listening, then all of a sudden the scrolling became extremely choppy and basically useless to use.  I have an iPod 5th Generation and would seriously love to keep Rockbox on there.

Thanks, CT
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Offline wodz

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 02:47:45 AM »
What kind of tracks were you listening to? Some files can stress (rather slow) cpu on ipod seriously.
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Offline CT71

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 03:51:08 AM »
What do you mean what kind of tracks?  Just basic 192aac files.  There's only about 12 gigs of music on the ipod, been that way for about 8 years now. 
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Offline CT71

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 05:36:48 PM »
Awwww man, can someone PLEASE help.  I love Rockbox, but theres no way this is how it performs.  There'd be a million topics on Google about this if this were how it works.  Not sure if I need to do a complete uninstall/install again - I was really trying to avoid that with this forum post.  Just turned my Ipod on again and it became choppy after about ten seconds.  Theres absolutely nothing unusual about whats on my iPod.  Thanks, CT
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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 05:51:41 PM »
Quote from: CT71 on April 09, 2013, 05:36:48 PM
Theres absolutely nothing unusual about whats on my iPod.

I don't have such problems on my Ipod so something needs to be unusual on your Ipod. At least compared to mine :)

For starters you could detail what scrolling is becoming choppy (scrolling in the file browser? Database? The scrolling lines in the WPS? Something else?) and post your configuration (the file /.rockbox/config.cfg)
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Offline CT71

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 08:52:25 PM »
Thank you.  I haven't actually tried scrolling through absolutely everything.  Once the choppiness started to happen while trying to go up and down through my artists/songs (which I believe is the database) I posted my question here on the forum.  Heck, if it were choppy with anything else I wouldn't even care - but choppiness through what is the actual meat and potatoes of why we all have ipods in the first place is something entirely different.  I can't get from Artist A to Artist F without it taking a small miracle.  Not sure what configuration it is.  I downloaded it about a month ago, so I'm guessing the latest version.  It says version 3.13 somewhere on my Rockbox.  Hope thats what you're looking for.
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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 12:30:28 AM »
Quote from: CT71 on April 09, 2013, 08:52:25 PM
  Not sure what configuration it is.  I downloaded it about a month ago, so I'm guessing the latest version.  It says version 3.13 somewhere on my Rockbox.  Hope thats what you're looking for.

He means the contents of the file /.rockbox/config.cfg.

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Offline CT71

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 12:24:03 PM »
Oh, sorry.  Can you tell me where I can find it? 
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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 01:53:30 PM »
Quote from: CT71 on April 10, 2013, 12:24:03 PM
Oh, sorry.  Can you tell me where I can find it? 

On the player, in the path I mentioned.  Furthermore, if it's the database that is slow you can try enabling the "Load to RAM" option. Disk accesses are slow, so that might be your problem.
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Offline CT71

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 01:40:18 AM »
Ok, I already did have the load to ram enabled.  And as for the config.cfg path, I don't see any path on my Rockbox that has that path.  I can't find a single tab that have any of those words you mentioned - file, Rockbox, config or cfg.  The closest tab I can find is the "Files" tab which doesn't really have anything important in it.  So I'm seriously not trying to be too much of an idiot here, but if you could tell me exactly where this cfg path is I'd be happy to show it to you.  Thanks.

Edit - I was just playing around with my ipod, and it might be that the choppy scrolling only happens when I'm playing a song.  Even if I paused the song and scolled the database, it was not choppy.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2013, 01:59:14 AM by CT71 »
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Offline cereal_killer

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2013, 02:37:45 AM »
The config.cfg file is located in the .rockbox folder that should be in the root of your player. So plug your player to your computer. Open it in a file manager. Open the .rockbox folder and there you will find the config.cfg file. Open this file using a text editor and you will see all your settings. You can also attach this file to a post in this forum.

The .rockbox folder might be hidden, so make sure to have hidden folders shown.

Does this choppy scrolling get better after some time of use?

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 01:13:14 PM »
Quote from: CT71 on April 11, 2013, 01:40:18 AM
And as for the config.cfg path, I don't see any path on my Rockbox that has that path.  I can't find a single tab that have any of those words you mentioned - file, Rockbox, config or cfg. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_(computing)
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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2013, 01:47:48 PM »
How many bands of EQ do you have on?
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Offline CT71

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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 02:05:07 AM »
Sorry guys, I'm gonna have to try and figure out this cfg thing on my day off.  I've pluged it in, I've looked everywhere, I've unhidden crap, but I just don't know why the friggin' hell I just can't find it!!  I've looked in the one Rockbox folder I have on my computer, but theres just an installer app and thats it.  If I truly can't find it on my day off by googling the crap out of all this, I'll come back and just give up and say I'm an idiot and I just can't find it.

@soap
I have the EQ enabled, which to me means all the bands are enabled.  So I'm not terribly clear on that.  If you have a 6 band, 10 band, or a 12 band equalizer and then you turn it on - everything is turned on.  Am I missing something in the terminology here?  As far as the EQ goes - it is truly THE one and only thing I downloaded Rockbox for.  This is the one feature I wanted and cannot live without by turning it off if for some reason this is the problem.  If Apple got off there stupid ass and just put even the simplest of EQ's on thier ipods I'd go out right now and buy that ipod.  Kills me, cannot be that hard for Apple to put a measely 5 band eq on there. 
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Re: Choppy scrolling
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2013, 04:01:50 AM »
Quote from: CT71 on April 12, 2013, 02:05:07 AM
Sorry guys, I'm gonna have to try and figure out this cfg thing on my day off.  I've pluged it in, I've looked everywhere, I've unhidden crap, but I just don't know why the friggin' hell I just can't find it!!  I've looked in the one Rockbox folder I have on my computer, but theres just an installer app and thats it.

You need to look on the player, not on your PC. See the attached screenshot.

Quote from: CT71 on April 12, 2013, 02:05:07 AM
As far as the EQ goes - it is truly THE one and only thing I downloaded Rockbox for.  This is the one feature I wanted and cannot live without by turning it off if for some reason this is the problem.  If Apple got off there stupid ass and just put even the simplest of EQ's on thier ipods I'd go out right now and buy that ipod.  Kills me, cannot be that hard for Apple to put a measely 5 band eq on there. 

The EQ requires quite a bit of processing power. The more bands you change to a value different from 0 the more power it requires. If you have all bands changed to non-zero and experience choppy scrolling this is a performance problem -- the Ipods CPU simply doesn't have enough power to do all that. Processing power is also likely to be (at least one) reason why Apple didn't put an EQ in there ...

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