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Offline nonob

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How can i use RB utility when my portable device isn't plugged ?
« on: June 07, 2012, 04:01:28 PM »
Hi,

When i create talk files, i first create it on my computer, then i synchronize files to my portable device.

So, in a first time, i don't have to plugg my device, but if i don't, i can't use rockbox utility, all is greyed, why ?

Thanks

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Re: How can i use RB utility when my portable device isn't plugged ?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 01:55:39 AM »
Because it can't find the player to which it would copy files, including generated talk files. Thus the configuration is invalid, and that's exactly what its error message says.
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Re: How can i use RB utility when my portable device isn't plugged ?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 02:50:19 AM »
Ok but  if my device is connected, i can create new talk files on another directory, not located on the device, so it could be useful to can the same without connected device..
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Re: How can i use RB utility when my portable device isn't plugged ?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 03:38:30 PM »
Quote from: nonob on June 08, 2012, 02:50:19 AM
Ok but  if my device is connected, i can create new talk files on another directory, not located on the device,

Yes, but that' s kinda to be considered as a bug in Rockbox Utility -- it's intended to operate on the device, so this is a bit wrong from that point of view :)

You can of course trick Rockbox Utility by pointing it to some device that is not the player but accepted -- basically any drive that is FAT formatted. You can even install a Rockbox build on such a "player" -- but if you do so you can confuse the autodetection functionality, so I don't recommend that.

If you're on Windows you could keep a complete copy of the files on your player on the local hard disk and then use subst to assign that a drive letter, making Rockbox Utility accept it.

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so it could be useful to can the same without connected device..

I agree with that. I'd also like to see a standalone application (perhaps even without any GUI) that creates talk files for a folder, so you don't need to use the "full" Rockbox Utility for that. This shouldn't be too hard to implement, but since my time is rather limited (and nobody else showed interest as far as I know) this isn't likely to happen anytime soon. Feel free to work on it and contribute a patch :)
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Re: How can i use RB utility when my portable device isn't plugged ?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 04:52:19 AM »
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You can of course trick Rockbox Utility by pointing it to some device that is not the player but accepted -- basically any drive that is FAT formatted.

My PC drive (C:) where i create talk files isn't FAT formatted, it is NTFS formatted, and it works ...

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You can even install a Rockbox build on such a "player" -- but if you do so you can confuse the autodetection functionality, so I don't recommend that.
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If you're on Windows you could keep a complete copy of the files on your player on the local hard disk and then use subst to assign that a drive letter, making Rockbox Utility accept it.

Yes i'm on windows but i don't understand the difference between these two tips, if the first tip can confuse autodetection functionality, why the second not ?

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I'd also like to see a standalone application (perhaps even without any GUI) that creates talk files for a folder, so you don't need to use the "full" Rockbox Utility for that.

What about voicebox+, idon't know it but it seems to be what i'm searching ? isn't it ?

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This shouldn't be too hard to implement, but since my time is rather limited (and nobody else showed interest as far as I know) this isn't likely to happen anytime soon. Feel free to work on it and contribute a patch Smiley

I'll do it if i could but it's above my skills :(

Thanks


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Re: How can i use RB utility when my portable device isn't plugged ?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 10:29:15 AM »
I am trying voicebox ..., it works and doesn't need my sansa to be plugged :)  but i 've one issue :

There isn't silence anymore when there is a bracket  in the directory name (for instance: Use your illusion (2012)), there is no pause between the "n" and the "(".

WIth rockbox utility, it works fine; there is a silence.

How can i set voicebox like rockboxutility for talk file creation ?

Thanks
« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 11:51:52 AM by nonob »
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Re: How can i use RB utility when my portable device isn't plugged ?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 12:03:35 PM »
Quote from: nonob on June 11, 2012, 10:29:15 AM
I am trying voicebox ..., it works and doesn't need my sansa to be plugged :)  but i 've one issue :

voicebox is not an official tool and as such not supported by the Rockbox developers. You might want to try reaching its author or find some users of it. However, since it's not a tool maintained by the Rockbox developers it's also not supported here. The solution from the development view is simply to use Rockbox Utility ;)
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Re: How can i use RB utility when my portable device isn't plugged ?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 12:38:35 PM »
Ok, i understand, but i try to use voicebox instead of rbutility because it seems to be easier for my needs: i've just to drag and drop a directory on voicebox shortcut (i created one for french language, and one for english language) and it's done, and i don't have to plug my portable device to do that.

But if there is a better support with rbutility, i would prefer to use it... :

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You can of course trick Rockbox Utility by pointing it to some device that is not the player but accepted -- basically any drive that is FAT formatted.

My PC drive (C:) where i create talk files isn't FAT formatted, it is NTFS formatted, and it works ... , should not ?

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You can even install a Rockbox build on such a "player" -- but if you do so you can confuse the autodetection functionality, so I don't recommend that.
(...)
If you're on Windows you could keep a complete copy of the files on your player on the local hard disk and then use subst to assign that a drive letter, making Rockbox Utility accept it.

Yes i'm on windows but i don't understand the difference between these two tips, if the first tip can confuse autodetection functionality, why the second not ?





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There isn't silence anymore when there is a bracket  in the directory name (for instance: Use your illusion (2012)), there is no pause between the "n" and the "(".

WIth rockbox utility, it works fine; there is a silence.

How can i set voicebox like rockboxutility for talk file creation ?

It works by deleting this line in the voiceUtils.vbs file:

Text = Replace(Text,"("," ")

« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 02:23:41 PM by nonob »
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