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pamaury
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #15 on:
July 13, 2013, 05:38:56 AM »
I'm sorry but I really cannot reproduce the problem. Does it happen when playing a folder and not from the database ? I've tried to play an album, wait for the screen to turn off and press a key but it never crashes. Anyway, can you recheck with a fresh install: remove .rockbox directory (or rename it) and install the latest nightly build. If it still occurs, could you try with this build:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b7e8irgft8o7jq3/rockbox-zenxfi3.zip
? Thanks
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Mac n00b
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #16 on:
July 17, 2013, 04:07:44 PM »
Hi! I haven't tried your custom build yet, but experienced an increase in stability after disabling bluetooth in OF. Discovered this after some peculiar behavior: I Used my player with OF, streaming audio to my car via bluetooth. Then I shut off the player, restarted into Rockbox and the player still streamed via bluetooth the music I played in Rockbox! Seems the Bluecore module is quite autonome, having it's own way.. can this be a possible cause?
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moodydork
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #17 on:
August 03, 2013, 12:47:28 PM »
i was looking around the net for ideas on which new mp3 player to get when i came across people talking a lot about rockbox.
so i came here and to my surprise there was one in development for x-fi3. i've always been a creative fan since soundblaster pro era, and eversince the first gen x-fi, i just couldn't see myself using any other mp3 player branding. but there was just so much horrible reviews and hatred going on for the x-fi2 and 3.
after reading this thread, i must ask the most important question to me. does the x-fi sound enhancement still work with your rockbox firmware? secondly, the issue where everyone complains about how bad the touch screen responsivity is, will this be addressed by rockbox? because if these 2 answers are yes, i'm gonna go find myself a new set of the 32gb version (which doesn't seem to be officially available anymore on my local creative webstore, the 16gb might be too small since i plan to start trying out FLAC files)
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pamaury
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #18 on:
August 03, 2013, 12:55:43 PM »
Hello,
the port is still work in progress so I cannot give a final answer. First you must know that the "X-Fi sound enhancement" has nothing to do with the hardware, that's a pure software marketing thing and we don't have such a thing a rockbox. Actually I don't know even know what it does; Rockbox features a lot of sound processing options so maybe you can reach the same capabilities, you would need to come on our IRC channel and ask the right person to get a final answer.
Second, the touchpad is currently not better than the OF because we are using the exact same setting. I admit it is not that good although one gets used to it. The good point is that it can be tweaked a lot but this is far from obvious so I cannot guarantee that we will ever success it getting it better but at least there is some hope.
You must also know that at this point the radio is not handled (although I managed to make it work but this is not in the published code) and we don't support bluetooth. Also the speaker is not handled but this will eventually be implemented, when I have some time for it.
I hope that doesn't sound too negative
I think the zen-xfi3 is a good player, it's just that the port is not finished yet and needs a lot of a polishing.
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moodydork
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #19 on:
August 03, 2013, 01:20:36 PM »
wow, thanks so much for responding so quickly!
i remember reading somewhere a long long time ago that the first generation x-fi products (soundcards and/or mp3 players) actually came with a hardware processor for this x-fi thingy. i don't remember where i read it anymore, but i found something about it here,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-fi#Crystalizer
does the information (and that pictures by the side) help make any sense to you? (i could be wrong though, not sure if related)
does that mean that even with rockbox, can booting it up, take as long as 3mins (as i've read people reviewing the x-fi3 mention about super slow load times)
things like radio and the bluetooth doesn't bother me at all actually. i'm fine with it being a mp3/flac player by itself.
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pamaury
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #20 on:
August 03, 2013, 01:41:17 PM »
Maybe older version of the creative zen line used some hardware "crystaliser" but I can assure you that this is not the case of the recent ones (starting from Creative Zen). Given the scope of X-Fi enhancement, I think it's mostly useless if your music is sampled with high enough quality but again I'm not audio expert.
On the X-Fi3, rockbox is very fast to boot, although I don't remember experiencing such a long boot on the OF.
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xusnorris
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #21 on:
January 08, 2014, 07:00:31 PM »
Thank you for this port, it's amazing and way better than OF. It allows X-Fi3 to play podcasts with bookmarks, and it's wonderfull!!!
Only one bug found (for the moment), if you go to general settings - bookmarking - Maintain a list of Recent Bookmarks , when you are going to select an option, the player hungs, and the only way to bring it to life is the reset button.
Again, thanks!!!!
Edit: With more use I realize that the problem is with setting options not implemented (I think), and it happens too with file selection with some directories (maybe with a lot of files?) . Still better than OF to podcasting.
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pamaury
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #22 on:
January 12, 2014, 06:15:19 AM »
Hi,
I see, it is possible that it is a keymap problem and you cannot escape the setting option once you're enter it. I will try on mine.
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xusnorris
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #23 on:
March 12, 2014, 04:42:21 PM »
FYI, in latest versions off button is not working, only reset works to switch off. But the keymap is fine now :-)
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pamaury
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #24 on:
March 18, 2014, 10:02:18 AM »
I just checked and the off button is working on my device, which is puzzling. I will check on my other ZEN X-Fi3.
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mup9
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #25 on:
March 20, 2014, 11:47:45 AM »
Re:bluetooth on creative zen xfi3
H all,
I have a nudeaudio bluetooth speaker which I managed to pair with my player and Rockbox.
I started the original firmware and paired it and then keeping this connection restarted player into rockbox and bluetooth function works!I love rockbox on this player thanks to all the programmers especially Amaury.
Regards
Munaf
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csussman
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #26 on:
April 20, 2014, 02:53:45 PM »
i just got a zen x-fi3 and installed rockbox which generally seems to be working fine, but i am having a couple of problems:
1. I can't figure out how to save a file name
2. rockboy requires 9 buttons, and the x-fi3 only has 8.
maybe a third button can be added on bottom between the 2 official buttons
3. in rockboy when you try rotating the screen one way (i think left) it crashes when you go to the menu
4. i can't find the jump/fire button in the zxbox emulator
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csussman
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #27 on:
April 23, 2014, 01:57:48 PM »
can s/o explain how to remove rockbox. (i need to exchange an 8gb player for 16gb)
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pamaury
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #28 on:
April 23, 2014, 02:12:43 PM »
To remove rockbox, download
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bsg24zuqppfnuhj/creative_zenxfi3_1.00.25.sb
, boot to the OF (Original Firmware) in USB mode (by holding volume down on boot), put the file at the root of the device and rename it to
firmware.sb
. Then unplug and reboot to the OF, it should trigger a firmware update and remove the Rockbox bootloader. If that doesn't work, remove the file and retry. Be sure to
boot to the OF
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Note: the file on dropbox is the one which can be extracted from any firmware upgrade from Creative using cabextract (see wiki page)
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Hoborg
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Re: Creative Zen X-Fi3
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Reply #29 on:
October 27, 2014, 11:28:02 AM »
Hi,
I've been updating my Creative Zen X-Fi 3 with new RockBox versions recently and with each release, RockBox firmware was working better and the device had less and less problems. Thank you people.
Last night I left it in the car, while it was ON (or maybe off) and it was connected to a 3.5mm audio cable which was then connected to the AUX port on the car's player. It wasn't connected to any sort of battery charger in the car and the car's player just turns itself off automatically with the car. So the X-Fi 3 was just on its own, probably playing files as long as it had any battery power left.
After about 16 hours I went back to the car to get my X-Fi 3 out of it and to recharge it if the battery was empty.
I tried to turn it on and nothing happened. I left it connected to the charger for a few hours but didn't seem to get charged because neither I could turn the device on (the reset button doesn't work either) nor the adapter was getting warm (meaning that it wasn't probably doing anything all those hours)!
I then connected the X-Fi 3 to my PC using a USB cable and again Nothing happened. Nothing changes in Windows' Device Manager when I connect this device to the computer!
Also the recovery mode doesn't load (which according to the Creative support is power-on into OF and then holding the - button). The device won't even turn on for me to go to the recovery mode!
What do you think happened? Is this more like a hardware problem or a software one?
Knowing that it was only playing files on its own battery while being only connected to a 3.5mm audio cable, how could anything possibly go wrong?
I had the option "shutdown after x hours" turned on in the past
but disabled it a few weeks ago because it was annoying! So I actually never had my X-Fi 3's battery totally emptied (except a few times while I was on the OF).
Should I send the device to Creative support to fix it or is there any way to like 'hard reset' it?! Do you think the battery is Dead or something because maybe RockBox didn't shut the device down when the battery was too low? (or maybe it crashed somehow and the device remained on with an error on the screen until the battery was out, who knows!)
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