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Hoffmann:
So I try to repeat the installation method with my own words to find hidden traps. PLEASE CORRECT ME - If I understood s.th. wrong!

1. I mount the HDD of the ZVM (and mouting means realy mounting the HDD and not just using the "usb-extern-harddrive-feature" of the ZVM).
2. I format the 2nd partition as fat
3. I build rockbox using linux OS (using linux virtually or actually)
4. I move all that compiled stuff to /mnt/what-ever/.rockbox/ on the zvm-hdd (except rockbox.zvm)
5. I unmount and unconnect everything and reboot the zvm
6. I copy the "rockbox.zvm"-file like I usualy copy mediafiles to the zvm
7. I reboot the zvm again and rockbox should be working *tada*
(8. I upload my build rockbox binarys to rockbox.org
 9. I tell ppl on this board that everything worked well)

Is it possible to attach a bigger 1.8"-HDD to my zvm?

Anybody has any hints for dissambling the zvm without destroying the hole magic eletronic and maybe even without scratches?

mcuelenaere:

--- Quote from: Hoffmann on June 17, 2008, 04:57:11 AM ---So I try to repeat the installation method with my own words to find hidden traps. PLEASE CORRECT ME - If I understood s.th. wrong!

1. I mount the HDD of the ZVM (and mouting means realy mounting the HDD and not just using the "usb-extern-harddrive-feature" of the ZVM).
2. I format the 2nd partition as fat
3. I build rockbox using linux OS (using linux virtually or actually)
4. I move all that compiled stuff to /mnt/what-ever/.rockbox/ on the zvm-hdd (except rockbox.zvm)
5. I unmount and unconnect everything and reboot the zvm
6. I copy the "rockbox.zvm"-file like I usualy copy mediafiles to the zvm
7. I reboot the zvm again and rockbox should be working *tada*
(8. I upload my build rockbox binarys to rockbox.org
 9. I tell ppl on this board that everything worked well)

Is it possible to attach a bigger 1.8"-HDD to my zvm?

Anybody has any hints for dissambling the zvm without destroying the hole magic eletronic and maybe even without scratches?

--- End quote ---
Correct. Don't forget to upload rockbox.zvm using either sendfirm or CreativeWizard. (just uploading it in MTP won't work because a special attribute needs to be set)

Yes, it is possible to attach a bigger HDD in it, but the height has to be maximum 5mm if I remember correctly, meaning only single platter HDD's.

For opening: the abi disassemble tutorial is perfect.

Just watch out with the bottom, if you aren't careful there you'll break off some plastic holding the screws (like I did); nothing really bad though.

--- Quote from: Transience on June 16, 2008, 11:02:22 PM ---Would it be possible to format the ZVM's HDD in windows xp with 010Editor, since 010 treats the ZVM like a removable disk in xp? I'm not 100% certain, but I think that 010 can read the entire disk (both partitions) as raw hex. If this is the case, how would I go about formatting the drive?

--- End quote ---
It is possible with 010Editor, but it will be very tough and require a lot of FAT expertise I presume :)
Perhaps there's a way of doing this on Windows, but as I couldn't mount the HDD correctly under Windows (only in Linux) I haven't searched for it. The main thing you need to do is format a piece of the HDD in FAT. Perhaps what you could do is overwrite the first sector (first make a backup!) with a normal header (use fdisk?) and set 1 partition at the correct place and format it as FAT.

quetzalcoatl:
Hi everyone:)

mcuelenaere - I have found the sources on my linux machine, but they are from somewhat early version.. It is only a CFS's inode reader, operating on dumpfiles, so there's almost nothing interesting in it except header files with a few raw structures' definitions. maybe I have some newer/better versions on other machines, i'll check in the evening

mcuelenaere:
Hi quetzalcoatl :)

Perhaps this should be discussed in the Creative ZVM Port thread, but for the time being it'll suffice.
Thanks for finding the time posting on the forums.

Perhaps a little bit of info for other people: quetzalcoatl is the one who did a lot of research for the Creative filesystems at nomadness.net and can hopefully help us understand how it works and help writing a read-only driver.

@quetzalcoatl:
What we need is
 a) a very limited read-only cfs driver which can locate a specific file (because the aim is to run a virtual filesystem in cfs which can be mounted through the Original Firmware to ease working on Rockbox and enable dual booting; the file in cfs is called VFSYS)
 b) a read-only minifs driver which could provide dual booting (actually the same thing as above needs to be accomplished, namely 'jukebox2.jrm' needs to be loaded into RAM and started)

For some more info, see the CreativeZVMPort wiki page.

BTW did you get my mails containing the disk dump I gave you?

AlexP:
Hi,

I've merged the new thread about the filesystem with the ZVM thread as suggested by mcuelenaere, as the thread that appeared about filesystems was a little cryptic without context :)

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