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bgdwie:
say... technically, couldn't you make it so the rockbox software is stored in the flash, as well as the creative format partition as a hard copy (safetys sake) and end that partition,  then format the remainder of the drive as fat 32 for storing your music and data and other related files? this would allow a lot more user accessable space on the drive and amore user friendly method of putting songs on the player?

as for which core does what, yes, the dps does control the dac from what i remember, so to get sound we would need to use it anyway, and since it has better floating point power (i can't rememeber, this is going back through old memories) it would be wise to run codecs from their in the first place as in the longrun it would require less effort then going back and changing it all.

Falafel:
Yeah, I didn't take the drive out, I'm trying to be more careful with my player. Seeing as how I've already lost a bunch of screws and the audio jack seems to have loosened a bit..

But what do you mean with the raw partition? Even if the ZV encapsulated the entire removable-part (At least this is the only thing I can imagine it would be able to do?) then, it would still be readily available to a OS-level driver..

bgdwie:

--- Quote from: Falafel on March 20, 2008, 12:29:24 PM ---But what do you mean with the raw partition? Even if the ZV encapsulated the entire removable-part (At least this is the only thing I can imagine it would be able to do?) then, it would still be readily available to a OS-level driver..

--- End quote ---

yeah, i see where your comming from, the partition would still be written like any other and be formatted as you specified so why would it matter?

edit: although, would the device also emulate a partition table for it, or does it already have one that is readable?

mcuelenaere:

--- Quote from: bgdwie on March 20, 2008, 12:28:25 PM ---say... technically, couldn't you make it so the rockbox software is stored in the flash, as well as the creative format partition as a hard copy (safetys sake) and end that partition,  then format the remainder of the drive as fat 32 for storing your music and data and other related files? this would allow a lot more user accessable space on the drive and amore user friendly method of putting songs on the player?

--- End quote ---
Yes, that's what I'm trying to accomplish on a long-term base. But since now Rockbox heavily relies on the current flash bootloader, I wouldn't consider it wise to replace that one with a Rockbox-custom one; so for now I would store the Rockbox bootloader as jukebox2.jrm in the minifs partition (and perhaps the OF as some other file) and access all other needed Rockbox files through the removable partition part.

--- Quote ---as for which core does what, yes, the dps does control the dac from what i remember, so to get sound we would need to use it anyway, and since it has better floating point power (i can't rememeber, this is going back through old memories) it would be wise to run codecs from their in the first place as in the longrun it would require less effort then going back and changing it all.

--- End quote ---
Indeed.


--- Quote from: Falafel on March 20, 2008, 12:29:24 PM ---Yeah, I didn't take the drive out, I'm trying to be more careful with my player. Seeing as how I've already lost a bunch of screws and the audio jack seems to have loosened a bit..

But what do you mean with the raw partition? Even if the ZV encapsulated the entire removable-part (At least this is the only thing I can imagine it would be able to do?) then, it would still be readily available to a OS-level driver..

--- End quote ---
Indeed, they will have encapsulated it in their custom file system stuff, but it could be that they obscured it some way; since they didn't make it very easy to view the firmware (encryption etc.); but I suppose this won't apply to the removable partition part :)


--- Quote from: bgdwie on March 20, 2008, 12:32:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: Falafel on March 20, 2008, 12:29:24 PM ---But what do you mean with the raw partition? Even if the ZV encapsulated the entire removable-part (At least this is the only thing I can imagine it would be able to do?) then, it would still be readily available to a OS-level driver..

--- End quote ---

yeah, i see where your comming from, the partition would still be written like any other and be formatted as you specified so why would it matter?

edit: although, would the device also emulate a partition table for it, or does it already have one that is readable?

--- End quote ---
I believe so, as Falafel said he could repartition it to FAT and Linux partitions.

Falafel:

--- Quote from: mcuelenaere on March 20, 2008, 12:36:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: bgdwie on March 20, 2008, 12:32:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: Falafel on March 20, 2008, 12:29:24 PM ---But what do you mean with the raw partition? Even if the ZV encapsulated the entire removable-part (At least this is the only thing I can imagine it would be able to do?) then, it would still be readily available to a OS-level driver..

--- End quote ---

yeah, i see where your comming from, the partition would still be written like any other and be formatted as you specified so why would it matter?

edit: although, would the device also emulate a partition table for it, or does it already have one that is readable?

--- End quote ---
I believe so, as Falafel said he could repartition it to FAT and Linux partitions.

--- End quote ---

Yeah, but on the other hand, it could be a strange partition table in which there is space only for 1 partition? because I wasn't able to mount or format the second partition.. I think I'm going to try this again, but then with 2 FAT partitions. I'll report back later

Edit:
Okay it is possible to change the partition into 2 FAT ones. I now have a FAT16 and a W95 style FAT32  partition, which are both read/writeable.

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