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skram0
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Flash for the Players?
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October 08, 2004, 05:17:17 PM »
Will there ever be a firmware flash for the Player models?
I have a Studio 20 and would like to get some joy the Recorder people get when they flash theirs. A quicker boot time would be nicccccce
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amiconn
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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October 09, 2004, 02:01:24 PM »
I plan to work on this as soon as the major issues of the Ondio port are solved. The basic procedure of flashing is no problem, however, rockbox does not yet run on the Players when cold-started.
There is another problem: Afaik, the percentage of Players that have the right flash chip (which is in-circuit programmable) is rather small, unlike with the Recorder models. You can check this if you go to "Info->Debug (Keep out!)->View HW info" and then cycle through the entries with the + or - buttons until "Flash:....." is displayed on the second line. If there are hexadecimal numbers after it, your Player is flashable, if it reads "Flash:??,??, you're out of luck.
Unfortunately the Player I aquired to do the flash development is not flashable, so I'm required to solder in the right chip first.
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Jens
Crossupmasta
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Posts: 8
Re: Flash for the Players?
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October 27, 2004, 10:50:50 PM »
I'd be interested in this if you ever get around to doing it. My Archos can be flashed.
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Amygdala
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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Reply #3 on:
December 02, 2004, 08:12:13 PM »
Very interested in applying a flash version of rockbox to my Studio 20 as well. It has the right programmable chip (hex code, no
).
Is there any way to improve the battery recharging/discharging cycling or reporting?
In the meantime, using 2.3 rockbox loader with Archos 5.08 firmware. Thanks for your great work. Makes the player a joy to use.
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amiconn
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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December 03, 2004, 01:30:35 AM »
It's actually already almost done, the only reason that it's not yet published is that I need tests with old players as I only have a new player myself.
There are some hardware differences that need to be accounted for (lcd, harddisk power control). The code is in, by not tested on old players, so if someone with an old player would flash and then rockbox doesn't work, it would need a involved procedure to recover the box. (For the technically interested: applying the uart boot mod and reflash it via minimon).
Specifically I need tester(s) with players that report an archos fw version < 4.50 on boot, and who are able to do the uart boot mod to load rockbox test version(s) from that. The test players do not necessarily be flashable, btw. I would do it myself, if I had access to an old player...
There is another quick test that needs to be done which doesn't require any mod, just rockbox loaded and then running a special test plugin to report a value. This should be done both on a 4.x player (< 4.50) and a 3.x player (most likely there is only 3.18). The latter is more important.
Jens
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Jens
Crossupmasta
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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Reply #5 on:
December 11, 2004, 01:18:41 PM »
Im willing to help test.
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amiconn
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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December 11, 2004, 01:45:07 PM »
What exact Player model & ROM version do you have? For checking the ROM version, go to Info->Debug->View HW Info. The ROM version is the very first info displayed. Furthermore I'd be interested in your archos firmware version, which is displayed at boot. This may be slightly different from the ROM version.
Jens
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Jens
Crossupmasta
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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Reply #7 on:
December 12, 2004, 12:20:59 PM »
On boot it says 5.08. In HW info the ROM version is 5.06.
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Ice[K-9]
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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Reply #8 on:
December 12, 2004, 03:16:17 PM »
I too have a flashable player, it says: Flash: BF, D6 in the [HW Info] section.
It's an Archos Jukebox Studio 20. The firmware version displayed on boot is 5.08, the ROM version in the [HW Info] section is 5.06
I too would be willing to help, but I know very little about this sort of stuff. As long as I can't screw up anything and as long as I am able to reverse the damage (if there is any) I am certainly willing to participate! Being able to boot this baby up quicker would be very nice!
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amiconn
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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Reply #9 on:
December 16, 2004, 08:02:43 PM »
Look at the mailing list: The player flash package is available now :-)
Jens
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Jens
Crossupmasta
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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Reply #10 on:
December 18, 2004, 12:15:46 PM »
Where?
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stevesimpkin
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Posts: 21
Re: Flash for the Players?
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Reply #11 on:
December 18, 2004, 01:02:39 PM »
See:Â
http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-12/0245.shtml
It has the information on how to Flash the Player (including warnings) and where to download the firmware.
Steve
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Crossupmasta
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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December 18, 2004, 07:34:18 PM »
Thanks, I flashed it and its running beautifully!Â
Are there any other advantages to flashing besides faster load times?
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Ice[K-9]
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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December 22, 2004, 04:22:59 PM »
I succesfully flashed my player aswell, one question though, after flashing can I delete: firmware_player.bin or is it still being used in some way? I also added: archos_player508.ucl seeing as I was not sure if I needed that thing on my archos, can I delete that also?
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amiconn
Developer
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Re: Flash for the Players?
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Reply #14 on:
December 22, 2004, 05:44:30 PM »
@Crossupmasta:
Imho, there are 3 main advantages of flashing rockbox on the players:
Power on by simply tapping ON instead of holding it down for 3 seconds.
Boot time roughly cut in half, depending on hard disk model.
The ability to use
RomBox
, leaving more free RAM for buffering mp3s, therefore spinning the HD less often, which in turn saves energy and delivers slightly longer battery runtime.
Furthermore, it's for the fun of it, and there is no longer an archos message at startup ;-)
@Ice[K-9]:
You can safely delete both files.
firmware_player.bin is the content that was programmed into your player's flash rom while first-time flashing via firmware_flash.rock. You will most likely never need this again (on this very box that is).
archos_player508.ucl is an image of the latest archos firmware for the players, only supplied for the rare case when you want to to start the archos firmware from flash
by default
, instead of rockbox, without
completely
reverting the flash process. You can always start the archos firmware alternatively by holding "-" while powering on.
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlashingRockbox
is recommended reading if you want to know more details.
Jens
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