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Offline goffa

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2006, 11:10:18 AM »
I really like those ideas.  I'd still switch play and navi (habit thing for me, i like hitting navi to get back to the wps).

But having 2 different actions would greatly improve rockbox. I also like ego's idea of a long hold for a dir.

To me that would be just as good, if not better than having a menu. The player would do exactly what i want it to do.
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Offline whatboutbob

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2006, 11:42:37 AM »
* whatboutbob supports this.

I've been hoping for one button queue/insert for a long time...and right click just seems to make sense...
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Offline goffa

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2006, 02:06:59 PM »
he he he.. now we just need someone to code/submit this. Someone smarter than me :)
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2006, 07:56:24 AM »
I really like these ideas.

I might program this if nobody is faster than me. If I do it then you should be able to configure what you really want. Unlike Llorean I'm a fan of customization for buttons  8)

But don't expect anything soon, I don't have much time to program atm.
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Offline CoyoteBenji

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2006, 09:21:42 AM »
I am new to rockbox but I installed it yesterday and I found it awesome ;-) Many thanks for your job  :D !

I have done a "straight forward" short patch on my ihp120 to test the idea as suggested here : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5240/edit

- in WPS screen, rec button display current playlist viewer
- in file browser, rec button add element to playlist
- in file browser, left button exit browser mode even if we are in root (/)   (that is more intutive in my opinion than using play button)

It works well but I don't know if theses idea are portable to others players?
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2006, 11:38:39 AM »
Welcome to Rockbox!

Quote from: CoyoteBenji on July 30, 2006, 09:21:42 AM
I am new to rockbox but I installed it yesterday and I found it awesome ;-) Many thanks for your job  :D !

I have done a "straight forward" short patch on my ihp120 to test the idea as suggested here : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5240/edit

- in WPS screen, rec button display current playlist viewer
- in file browser, rec button add element to playlist
- in file browser, left button exit browser mode even if we are in root (/)   (that is more intutive in my opinion than using play button)

It works well but I don't know if theses idea are portable to others players?

the first and the third idea of yours exist already as patches in the patch tracker somewhere.
I wrote a patch where you can configure actions for the rec button (but the action is the same in wps and browser, so this is incompatible with your third) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5555
left exit to wps is discussed in great lengths in the H120 Forum (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1218.0)

Ideas that use the record button are only portable to iriver H3xx series, ipods and iaudios have fewer buttons (don't know about archos)

you should seperate every idea in a single patch btw.
Add your patches to the patch tracker and see what feedback you get!

The main developers haven't agreed if and how these ideas should be included in the official build yet. A discussion for  the Record button can be found here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5435.0
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Offline Febs

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2006, 12:57:19 PM »
Quote from: Rincewind on July 31, 2006, 11:38:39 AM
The main developers haven't agreed if and how these ideas should be included in the official build yet.
With respect to the "left to WPS" idea, I have never seen anything but adamant opposition from the core developers.
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2006, 12:02:35 PM »
Quote from: Febs on July 31, 2006, 12:57:19 PM
Quote from: Rincewind on July 31, 2006, 11:38:39 AM
The main developers haven't agreed if and how these ideas should be included in the official build yet.
With respect to the "left to WPS" idea, I have never seen anything but adamant opposition from the core developers.
I only meant the usage of the record button.

I don't like "left to wps" either.
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Offline Wintershade

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2006, 06:51:18 AM »
Sending my humble vote to the one button queuing idea.
My iAudio X5 had this on it's original firmware and I liked it a lot, but it wasn't a good enough reason to use OF rather than RB  ;)
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2006, 02:35:41 PM »
As I said...I've been keeping rubbergloves patch running and I've just updated my build so here's the patch that has come out of it all...should do the trick. go to mode->playlist options->click insert options to change the click function.....Fantastic patch! :)

Or my build is in my sig if you can't compile. (only for H120/H140 though i'm afraid)

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My H120 build with Recording Enhancements Pack
Some examples of recordings done on H140 with Rockbox

Offline goffa

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2006, 06:21:19 PM »
Just got my player back from iriver yesterday, I'm going to try your build tonight.  Then work on patching the x5l. Hopefully all goes well on that.
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Offline goffa

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2006, 12:55:58 AM »
Well, I tried your build on my h140. I have to say i like it, but i'm wondering if you or someone can modify the patch to get  the selected file to play immediately instead of inserting the file next?

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Offline evilnick

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2006, 01:13:42 AM »
Not sure how easy this'd be to do but to try to please everyone, there should be an option for One Click Insert/Queue somewhere in the settings menu with the available values:
Off
Insert
Insert Next
Insert Shuffled
Insert Last
Queue
Queue Next
etc. [i.e. show all the options under the Long-click->Playlist screen]
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2006, 01:22:05 PM »
Quote from: goffa on August 04, 2006, 12:55:58 AM
Well, I tried your build on my h140. I have to say i like it, but i'm wondering if you or someone can modify the patch to get  the selected file to play immediately instead of inserting the file next?
Can't you just skip to the next track?

Quote from: evilnick on August 04, 2006, 01:13:42 AM
Not sure how easy this'd be to do but to try to please everyone, there should be an option for One Click Insert/Queue somewhere in the settings menu with the available values:
Off
Insert
Insert Next
Insert Shuffled
Insert Last
Queue
Queue Next
etc. [i.e. show all the options under the Long-click->Playlist screen]

Isn't that what this patch does?
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My H120 build with Recording Enhancements Pack
Some examples of recordings done on H140 with Rockbox

Offline goffa

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Re: one button queuing
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2006, 01:58:31 PM »
You can skip to the next track.  That is more convenient than current behavior. BUT it would be nice to not even have to do that.

I think both should be left in, because i can see scenarios and reasons for keeping both.

The way i see it, more convenient playlist handling is, the better rockbox will be. To me that is the most important aspect of an audio player. (well, other than being able to play files :)

I'd actually like to see the patch implemented into cvs too, but that's a fight i'll probably lose.
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