Database: ID3 Frames "sort order" TSOA TSOP support?

[SojiOkita]

Hi everyone,

I've read some posts about this but they are all very old.

In ID3 2.4 there are some frames called TSOA & TSOP (album sort order  & performer sort order):
http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-frames

These frames are very useful as they permit to order artists & albums in other ways than strictly alphabetical.
For example:
- with artist = "The Beatles", and TSOP = "Beatles", Beatles will be sorted with other "B" groups
- with TSOA = year.album, albums will be sorted in chronological order

The important thing is that the TSOP / TSOA are not displayed. They are only used for sorting.



Is there a way I can make Rockbox support these standard frames?

I'm surprised as my wife's new ipod nano with apple firmware uses these ID3 frames very well... and my sansa clip with rockbox doesn't.

[saratoga]

grep doesn't turn up any reference to them in the source, so probably not.

[SojiOkita]

Thanks for the answer.

Any chance that these tags will be read in the future?

[saratoga]

Thanks for the answer.

Any chance that these tags will be read in the future?

No reason they couldn't be.  I don't think anyone is interested in doing so though.

[SojiOkita]

I'm surprised no one would be interested in having standard id3 tags understood in the database.

I like rockbox (which is clearly an improvement over my original firmware) but I clearly miss a full tag support to be able to browse my music with tags the way I browse it everywhere else.
I can't do anything about it as I'm not a developer myself... and I fully understand if developers work only for the features they see an interest in.

[saratoga]

I'm surprised no one would be interested in having standard id3 tags understood in the database.

There are so many standard id3v2 tags that most of them are never used.

[SojiOkita]

Maybe, but I find these ones in particular very useful (mainly to display albums in a chronological order)
I use them on my computer, on my squeezebox system, and on my wife's ipod...
The only device I can't use them (and apparently with no workaround) is my sansa clip (with or without rockbox).

They are so many things that can be controlled with rockbox, unfortunately, you can't control which tags are to be included in the DB...

Anyway, thanks for all your answers.

[Chronon]

It's always possible that someone will decide it's worth working on and submits a patch.   

[SojiOkita]

Yes, I'll keep checking... as I've no plan to change my sansa clip.
And no plan to go back to the original firmware (which doesn't recognize the albumartist frame...) either.

There seems to have been a patch which is not working anymore:
http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7287

[kugel.]

http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7287

The patch worked, but it needs a lot of ram, which is why it's not committed yet.

[SojiOkita]

It worked, but it seems not to be working anymore.
(I didn't try, as I have no clue how to apply a patch)