Can't seem to turn off or shut down iPod 3rd Gen 20gb

[teamost]

When I'm playing music on the above player with Rockbox, I can't ever turn it off.  Manual says "long play" button should do it, but it doesn't.  A quick press of that button will pause playback.  But that's what a long press on the play button does too.  And it never seems to just hibernate or fall asleep if I leave it in paused-play mode.  So how do I just turn it off??  Thanks.

[Chronon]

Maybe your player has some sort of hardware failure.  I have heard of similar behavior on a 5.5g iPod:
http://dreamlayers.blogspot.com/2008/12/video-ipod-wont-charge-via-usb-wont.html

It sounds like your iPod might be suffering from a similar problem.

[Llorean]

If holding "long play" is only pausing your music, then something is going wrong. At the very least it should stop playback, not just pause it. It may be that you're moving your finger too much while trying to do it, and making it think you're scrolling briefly, interrupting or canceling the hold.

[teamost]

The player seems to function completely fine when using the native firmware, so not sure if hardware failure explains it. 

When I hit the play button for any length, short or long, it pauses play and displays the main menu.  I don't know if that menu display is normal function for Rockbox in this situation?  But it won't turn off, nor will it sleep/hibernate if I just let it sit in pause mode either.

[saratoga]

The player seems to function completely fine when using the native firmware, so not sure if hardware failure explains it. 

I don't  think its physically possible to shut the 3G down in the OF, so how exactly did you verify that its working fine?

[teamost]

The player seems to function completely fine when using the native firmware, so not sure if hardware failure explains it. 

I don't  think its physically possible to shut the 3G down in the OF, so how exactly did you verify that its working fine?

I just meant that using original firmware, all buttons and functions work according to directions.  When I hold a "long play" with orig. firmware, the screen goes dark and it is functionally "off" (even though I guess it's in hibernate/standby mode really).

[saratoga]

The player seems to function completely fine when using the native firmware, so not sure if hardware failure explains it. 

I don't  think its physically possible to shut the 3G down in the OF, so how exactly did you verify that its working fine?

I just meant that using original firmware, all buttons and functions work according to directions.  When I hold a "long play" with orig. firmware, the screen goes dark and it is functionally "off" (even though I guess it's in hibernate/standby mode really).

Thats not the same thing though for the reasons mentioned in Chronon's link. 

[teamost]

Update:  the behaviors I described above were when the ipod was plugged into an AC charger.  When unplugged from the charger, the ipod would turn off or shut down like it's supposed to according to RB instructions (long play).  But when turning it back on it does a full reboot of the OS.  My battery isn't strong enough for all the harddisk spin-ups that RB seems to require.

[bluebrother]

You cannot turn of an Ipod while it's charging. This is a hardware restriction -- when you plug in any Ipod to a charger it will power up.

Additionally, the Apple firmware doesn't turn of the Ipod. Instead it puts the Ipod in some sleep state. As a result it "can" turn of the Ipod with a charger connected, since that turning of is actually the Ipod still being powered up.

[Chronon]

But when turning it back on it does a full reboot of the OS.  My battery isn't strong enough for all the harddisk spin-ups that RB seems to require.

This is the expected functionality when using Rockbox.  Rockbox powers off the hardware, so spinning up the hard disk is necessary.  I would invest in a new battery and/or adjust the settings so that automatic shut down happens less frequently.