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Offline snooze5

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Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« on: September 24, 2011, 02:33:30 PM »
Dear all,

as a newbie in this forum I hope, here's the right place to post my problem.

I got a Sansa Fuze V2 with the fimware version 02.03.33. I use Windows Vista (could also use XP SP3 or mac - but this would be the favourite).

I tried to install rockbox on the Fuze via Rockbox installation routine (bootloader etc.).

The first problem was, that Rockbox seemed not to accept the existing .bin file on the Fuze. I had to download a V1 firmware on my computer.

Then I got the Rockbox bootloader installed and also got Rockbox installed on the fuze. The .rockbox file is now there, but rockbox is not working on the player (I'm keen on gapless music).

I did the installation several times (also I put a V1 .bin file on the Fuze), but it's always the same: the Fuze says 'writing' when the rockbox version is put on the Fuze, but still it isn't working.

I would appreciate any help on this topic!

Thanks in advance

snooze5 / Christian


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Offline saratoga

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2011, 02:36:38 PM »
Quote from: snooze5 on September 24, 2011, 02:33:30 PM
I got a Sansa Fuze V2 with the fimware version 02.03.33. I use Windows Vista (could also use XP SP3 or mac - but this would be the favourite).

I tried to install rockbox on the Fuze via Rockbox installation routine (bootloader etc.).

The first problem was, that Rockbox seemed not to accept the existing .bin file on the Fuze. I had to download a V1 firmware on my computer.

Its not possible to downgrade a V2 player to a V1 firmware as they have different processors that are incapable of running each other's firmware.  You'll need to get out your player and verify which firmware is actually installed on it by checking the version in the Sandisk firmware.  If you have a V2 firmware, you must only use V2 bin files and a V2 build of Rockbox.  If V1, then only use V1 firmwares and rockbox builds.  If you mix them up you'll probably find that the install fails because the processor will not understand the software you've loaded.
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Offline snooze5

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 03:31:03 PM »
Dear All,

I got the problem solved (I hope so) - now the rockbox sign is shon on the player - for the first time!

Very helpful: the SansaAMS guide to installation (which is very useful!)



Post Merge: September 24, 2011, 03:59:38 PM
Sorry for posting so much, but:

I did the steps of the rockbox SansaAMS guide and put the patched bin on the MP 3 Fuze Player, then safely remove it.

Then its the only time, the rockbox sign is shown on the Fuze - then darkness.

If I put the Fuze on the Computer again (the Sansa updater has been removed from it) and install the most recent rockbox - utility on it.

It give me the original Sansa look and (unluckily) the original Sansa features e.g. no gapless hearing.

What can I do to get this rockbox-thing working on my Sansa Fuze?????????

Thanks in advance!!

Snooze5 / Christian
« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 03:59:38 PM by snooze5 »
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Offline snooze5

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 04:38:24 PM »
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Its not possible to downgrade a V2 player to a V1 firmware as they have different processors that are incapable of running each other's firmware.  You'll need to get out your player and verify which firmware is actually installed on it by checking the version in the Sandisk firmware.  If you have a V2 firmware, you must only use V2 bin files and a V2 build of Rockbox.  If V1, then only use V1 firmwares and rockbox builds.  If you mix them up you'll probably find that the install fails because the processor will not understand the software you've loaded.

Thanks for the remark. I did it now with the V2 OF and I get the same problem as magicalbum (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,25503.msg170553.html#msg170553): I put it on the fuze on the manual tour, and put the patched version on the Fuze and then: the Rockbox boot screen is shown and then Fuze hangs. If I restart it: same thing, so I have to put the original .bin file (from Sandisk) on the Fuze in order to be able to hear music.

If anybody has a suggestion how to get the Rockbox properly worked on a Sansa Fuze V2 - pleas post / send an Email!!!!!!!

Thanks in Advance
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 04:54:28 PM »
Try using 3.9.1 instead of today's build.  The recent font commit seems to break it on some players. 
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Offline snooze5

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 12:52:45 PM »
Dear Saratoga

thank you for the answer!

a) I've looked at the rockbox.info sheet of the .rockbox file at my Fuze and it's Version 3.9.1; are there perhaps more than one 3.9.1 versions (little bit unlikely) - or shall I try to install the 3.9 version?
 
b) there is a thread, which is dealing with an Experimental isanggon build [r27238] - could this perhaps be a realistic option to get rockbox running?


Thank you very much for caring!

All the best

snooze5 / Christian
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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 01:08:07 PM »
Quote from: snooze5 on September 28, 2011, 12:52:45 PM
a) I've looked at the rockbox.info sheet of the .rockbox file at my Fuze and it's Version 3.9.1; are there perhaps more than one 3.9.1 versions (little bit unlikely) - or shall I try to install the 3.9 version?

No, you're running the right version.  Its probably something else wrong with your player.  Try checking the disk for errors, often if the file system is corrupt you'll have problems.
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Offline snooze5

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 02:02:45 PM »
Hello,

I've checked the volume (with the WinTool) - everything seems to be ok.

Would you need more data for another hint?

Thanks!!

Snooze5 / Christian
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Offline tpijag

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 08:01:45 PM »
Seems ok? Generally it is or isn't.
Unless something has changed, WinTool does not scan ones disk for errors.  Use chkdsk.
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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 11:37:17 PM »
Saratoga, I can't get rockbox to work on my Sansa fuze V2 either.  I'm using V2 firmware and a V2 bin, but the only rockbox installer I can find says its V1.2.  How do I know if I'm using a V2 build of rockbox you reference?  Where do I find that?

Thanks!

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2011, 12:21:21 AM »
Quote from: BB99 on September 28, 2011, 11:37:17 PM
How do I know if I'm using a V2 build of rockbox you reference?  Where do I find that?

The installer asks you which player you have.  Choose Fuze v2.
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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2011, 12:28:13 AM »
Yes I have it set to that.  The auto installer runs fie with no errors.  I also tried it the manual way with no errors.  Either way, the files are clearly on the player, but rockbox does not start on reboot.  I have to assume its something with the bootloader, but nothing has worked...
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Offline snooze5

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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2011, 12:33:39 AM »
Quote from: tpijag on September 28, 2011, 08:01:45 PM
Seems ok? Generally it is or isn't.
Unless something has changed, WinTool does not scan ones disk for errors.  Use chkdsk.

@tpijag
there is stated 'no problems' by chkdsk and by the Windows-Tool --> The volume is ok.

@BB99 I've had this problem as well and solved it by using the manual for SansaAMS (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WebHome?topic=sansaAMS  -  if you are runnig it, don't forget to store the old/original Sansa- bin of the Fuze!).
Anyhow - in my case then the problems of this posting started (see above). Good luck!

snooze5 / Christian
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Re: Sansa Fuze V2 - Rockbox installing problems
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2011, 12:55:08 AM »
Maybe this is my problem.  The V2 OF showing on my settings screen is the latest according to the sandisk page- 2.03.33.  But the zip file I have for the bin for rockbox install is titled fuze02.01.17, and the actual bin file (fuzpa) seems to be from 2008. So I'm assuming this is why my patch creates correctly but does not work.  The link on the Sandisk page for the OF is not the actual zip file, but a downloader.  the downloader is only giving me the options of a manual and a media converter.  How do I get the 2.03.33 bin file to create the proper patch???

Thanks!
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