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Offline PkTroN

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Problems On Gigabeat S
« on: September 23, 2011, 02:35:59 AM »
Im not shure if this post goes here... so srry if im wrong.

I recently tried to install rockbox on my gigabeat S, i followed the manual and i had a lot of problem, 4 times the gigabeat showed me a screen with a request for update or repair the program, finally i did usin the beast patcher and the .rockbox carpet as says in the manual i was so freakin happy but when i turned off and on the gigabeat it came with the same screen i resseted but nothin happens now it apprears to be 2 partitions 1 without the nk file an other with it i put the .rockbox carpet on both and at the loadin it says 0 files found...

can someone help me???
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Offline Phalangees

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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 09:50:53 AM »
I would highly recommend you try using the Rockbox Utility: http://www.rockbox.org/download/

It should be able to automatically install Rockbox correctly.
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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 11:41:28 AM »
The Gigabeat S boot code is very very picky about the state of the device, and if it sees anything it dislikes it immediately reformats the hard drive and requires firmware restoration. This happens very frequently for some people, and rarely/never for others, with very little pattern that we have been able to figure out yet.

One thing that appears to make it much more reliable is to install a dual-boot bootloader (one created by providing beastpatcher with a copy of the original firmware file). The easier-to-install single-boot bootloader which can only load Rockbox appears to cause much more frequent reformats.
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some kind of ARM guy. ipodvideo/gigabeat-s/h120/clipv2. to save time let's assume i know everything.

Offline PkTroN

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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 12:46:06 PM »
Quote from: Phalangees on September 23, 2011, 09:50:53 AM
I would highly recommend you try using the Rockbox Utility: http://www.rockbox.org/download/

It should be able to automatically install Rockbox correctly.

Utility doesnt work at Gigabeat S =(


Quote from: torne on September 23, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
The Gigabeat S boot code is very very picky about the state of the device, and if it sees anything it dislikes it immediately reformats the hard drive and requires firmware restoration. This happens very frequently for some people, and rarely/never for others, with very little pattern that we have been able to figure out yet.

One thing that appears to make it much more reliable is to install a dual-boot bootloader (one created by providing beastpatcher with a copy of the original firmware file). The easier-to-install single-boot bootloader which can only load Rockbox appears to cause much more frequent reformats.

 how can i restore firmware??
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 02:11:37 PM »
Quote from: PkTroN on September 23, 2011, 12:46:06 PM
Utility doesnt work at Gigabeat S =(

It does, if you enable "Show disabled targets" in the configuration dialog. It does not support installing the bootloader though, you need to do that using beastpatcher first.

Quote from: torne on September 23, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
The Gigabeat S boot code is very very picky about the state of the device, and if it sees anything it dislikes it immediately reformats the hard drive and requires firmware restoration. This happens very frequently for some people, and rarely/never for others, with very little pattern that we have been able to figure out yet.

There's a tracker entry that describes the behaviour: FS#9778. It's been confirmed that this is related to the version of the Toshiba bootloader installed on the player -- I could confirm that myself. It's not understood what the newer bootloader versions dislike about the single boot bootloader.

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how can i restore firmware??

Send the original firmware to the player using beastpatcher, or send a dual-boot firmware to it:
Code: [Select]
beastpatcher -d nk.bin bootloader.bin

or

Code: [Select]
beastpatcher -s nk.bin
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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 02:36:49 PM »
Quote from: bluebrother on September 23, 2011, 02:11:37 PM
There's a tracker entry that describes the behaviour: FS#9778. It's been confirmed that this is related to the version of the Toshiba bootloader installed on the player -- I could confirm that myself. It's not understood what the newer bootloader versions dislike about the single boot bootloader.
I have a newer Toshiba bootloader (I think 1.2) on my Gigabeat S and it works fine with a single boot bootloader.
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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 06:23:51 PM »
Torne could u plz upload the bootloader?
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Offline torne

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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2011, 07:09:35 PM »
No, there is no point; I think you are misunderstanding. I was pointing out to bluebrother that I don't think it *is* confirmed that this is solely down to the Toshiba bootloader version, since I have the version that he says doesn't work and it does. :) I don't have some special magic thing that makes it work, the exact same bootloader that the normal install process can install for you just happens to work on my particular device even though it doesn't work for you, and I have no idea why that is.
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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 11:41:09 PM »
 :'( srry missunderstood
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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2011, 02:20:58 AM »
The problem is (at least as far as I could confirm it) related to the Toshiba bootloader. You can downgrade it as described in the task I linked, that made the single boot bootloader work for me. The dualboot bootloader works reliably for me. Since Torne is expecting a somewhat different behaviour there is more to it than the Toshiba bootloader version, still I'd try those.
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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2011, 09:07:19 PM »
Hm guys i have been readin a lot and trying to repair this i made myself to install the rockbox but after a long use it dropped me a weird message on boot program, with weird things on it so now i want to restore it and follow Bluebrother's solutions but this is a problem..

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpassets-images/firmware/MESV12US.zip

link is down .. can someone upload it??

Post Merge: September 25, 2011, 02:18:42 PM
i have this problem

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpassets-images/firmware/MESV12US.zip

can someone upload it plz!!??

Post Merge: September 25, 2011, 04:42:19 PM
guys i still gavin problems...

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpassets-images/firmware/MESV12US.zip

Can someone upload it?
« Last Edit: September 25, 2011, 04:42:19 PM by PkTroN »
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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 10:15:50 AM »
Please don't post the same thing again and again, and do NOT expect people to reply within a few hours. This is inappropriate and will not make people help you.

If you read this thread carefully you'll notice a Flyspray task I've linked earlier. In that task there's a link to a firmware update. This link works fine for me. Additionally, if you do a bit of trying you can also download the 1.2 version of the firmware instead of the 1.3 version.

Apart from that you can also try searching the toshiba website or google. The file is still available (though it's packaged in an exe instead of an iso file this time, but extracting the exe is also described in the wiki).
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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2011, 01:46:15 PM »
srry if u see time some of that posts are not in the same day i posted again cause i posted but the forum wasnt showin it....

and i have been searchin the 1.2 but i cant find it thats why i post that...
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2011, 06:01:13 PM »
Its probably also a good idea to spell words correctly.  If your posts are difficult to understand its more likely people will ignore them.
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Offline PkTroN

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Re: Problems On Gigabeat S
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2011, 09:02:20 PM »
hm.. ok
keepin in track
1.- first time i installed rockbox no gigabeat s, it ran the problem was at the restart it showed a firmware error
2.- i tried several times and problem continued, even with rockbox utility
3.- i downloaded the gbs_update_1_3_us.exe and the problem changed after installin rockbox, the bootloader showed Files not found, even with the utility
4.- i downloaded gbs_update_1_2_us.exe and wsa the same

but i noticed that the first time i instlled rockbox i only had the nk.bin on the tsfat but after i used gbs_update_1_2_us.exe and gbs_update_1_3_us.exe there were lot of more files...

so, can someone who has running the rockbox could send me the nk.bin???
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