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[Solved]: Looking for help: iRiver H140 with Toshiba MK2431GAH
iRiverer:
Thx for looking.
After your post, I downloaded gparted, and checked for myself that my drive also has sector size 512. But I could remember that I set somewhere size 4096. So I startet fat32 formatter to look, and I recognized I used a complete different program called Windows Disk Management before. D'oh, how stupid of me!
I checked with a very small file in the rockbox folder, it has size 300 bytes, but on the drive it reserves 32kb. Very strange, perhaps you are right and this has something to do with the slow copying and the not correct settings.
The broken joystick navigation on the other seems really to be a hardware malfunction, cause I checked with the original firmware, there I have the same problems :(
At the moment, I'm reformating with fat32 formatter. Then I have to restore the old backup and copy the missing files.
It will consume some hours again, but if then I can use my iRiver again (even with a malfunctioning joystick) I'm satisfied.
iRiverer:
Well, after a very long weekend with formating, restoring and recopying for hours and hours, I think I have my iRiver in a status where the settings actually take effect, but as I assumed, the joystick doesn't work correctly.
I think I will keep it this way for now. Perhaps after a little time I will buy an old H140 or H120 from ebay and install my drive to that one to get a device with a working joystick.
DTSyX:
I have some new information that others, that modded their H1X0 the same way I did, might find interesting.
First regarding the problem that iRiverer was experiencing regarding transfer speed (or shall I say slowness). Even though I haven't experienced that slow transfer speed as iRiverer did, I also have the feeling that the transfer speed of the H140-MK2431GAH combination is lower that with the original setup. I've found some information about the probable cause. But I haven't solved the problem yet because I have no experience in doing such operations, don't even know if I would have all the necessary tools and - most of all - don't really understand yet, what parts they are really talking about, because I find two of the members talking of different parts for the solution. I have to asked them first before I can even think of trying to fiddle around with that problem.
But here are the links:
The general rockbox wiki regarding that problem:
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UDMAonUSB
The thread regarding the probable solution:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=20402.0
The second information I wanted to share involving the H140-MK2431GAH combination is as follows.
I updated to the latest rockbox version (3.10, from 3.9.1) using rockbox utility. As I got used to the process was slow but - seemingly - sucessful. When done and pulling the usb cable the system told me to restart/reboot as the system had been updated. I pressed the respective buttom (I think it was the joystick) and the system rebooted (though I think it was not a complete booting process all the from the "normal" beginning), no problems here.
But when I shut the player down later and started it again, I got an error message telling me that the checksum of the "firmware" was not correct and the player booted the original iriver os.
See attached pictures. Also note that the model name is cryptic.
I found a thread where someone describes a similar problem with his ipod:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=29689.0
I tried several things, including renaming the '.iriver' folder and "installing" rockbox (3.9.1 and 3.10, respectively) anew. When booting the error message now was 'file not found' (I guess rockbox.iriver was meant). Anyway, the player was 'broken'. When changing to the original hdd of the player, the player started whithout any problem. So it was purely a problem of the hdd (file system, file table, whatever).
I ran chkdsk /r /f. No errors found, nothing changed.
So I pulled out the bazooka: I copied all needed files to another hdd and formatted the 240GB-hdd using fat32formatter completely, meaning not using the quick format option. That obviously took some time, but after reinstalling rockbox 3.10 the player started as usually.
So, when it comes to the H140-MK2431GAH combination, it works but it apparently has it flaws one has to live with, at least using the setup decribed in this thread above.
Other than that I had no problems in the daily use of this H140 mod - using .flac and .ogg, respectively.
[Edit]:
Though rockbox 3.10 generally worked with my iriver mod, it didn't want to play a larger .ogg file and froze every time when I tried to play it. So I switched back to rockbox 3.9.1 which instantly played this file.
So, as an information for all users with the same or a similar iriver mod, you might want to save yourself some time and stay with 3.9.1 in the first place.
I want to remind you that the problems I decribe most probably originate from the bootloader 7 pre 4 that is essential to be able to run a big hdd like Toshiba MK2431GAH on the iriver H140. So, no rockbox 3.10 bashing here. I acutally like(d) the new sleep timer implementation and features in 3.10 better...
[Edit 08.12.2012]
As I found out today, the problem with updating Rockbox on a modified H140 (at least the kind I have) - meaning no successful update unless one formats the whole disc and starts anew (otherwise 'bad checksum error' when trying to boot) - only occurs when trying to update from 3.9.1 (maybe also "and before") to 3.10 and higher. Updating (or downgrading) from 3.10 (and higher) to any version from 3.10 on works as usual by simply extracting the .zip file or using Rockbix Utiliy, meaing just overriding the files. So, no hassles with switching Rockbox versions from 3.10 on.
I haven't noticed that before because I always started with 3.9.1 when trying to update to 3.10, 3.11.2 and 3.12.
[Edit 17.01.2013]
Regarding the problem mentioned just above. It seems to be a problem of either the bootloader 7 pre 4 or the 240GB hdd drive. I can up- and downgrade between the different Rockbox versions as I please as long as I haven't filled the drive with all my music. If the hdd is filled up (with my H140 there a 5GB free) the mentioned bad checksum error occurs and can only be "healed" by formatting the drive and start anew.
I even checked, if after a version upgrade on a filled hdd there would be some heavy fragmenting going on that prevents some important rockbox files from beeing loaded during the boot process. But it looked ok, no fragmentation within the rockbox files.
Strange bug...
Uwe Z:
Hi all,
just wanted to express my sincere thanks for the incredible help this thread provided in upgrading my H140 to a 240gb Toshiba MK2431!! :) :) :) :) :)
For years I dreamt of getting all my music on my H140 and now I finally succeded!!!
- Flash the bootloader with the 7pre4, make a copy of the files on the old hard drive, take the old hd out, put in the new one connect via USB to laptop, create a fat32 partition with free MiniTool Partition Wizard, copy the whole directory of the old hd on the formatted drive, DONE!
Slam dunk! 8)
For the next years or decades I got enough storage space (I hope ::) ::))
Kudos to those who tried and tried and who were bold enough to take the risk of briking their H140.
Uwe Z:
Hi All,
thought everythings perfect but after I copied all my music files on the new HD I observe some problems. Upfront before I go into details:
- folders structure "A-Z" and as subdirectories "Artist" and subdirectory "Albums"
- total: 151GB in 27000 files and 2600 folders
2 problems :-[
A)After I copied the files and intialized the database about 16000 files were imported into the data base which took very long but ok I can wait.
But it stopped which results in an ncomplete database!In the "developers section" under "System" "View database info" I can see the 100% progress are reached after the letter L which equaly to the 16k files.
B) If i browse through the "Files" there are no files ("Artists" and Albums" and no "songs" displayed after the letter "L"
I checked all settings but the only one which I think may have an influence is the directory cache: enabled and the max number of files per directory set to max = 10000 files.
If I connect the H140 to the laptop via USB all of the Artists, Albums and Songs are there! I can even play them on the laptop using for example VLC player.
Questions:
- has anybody experienced this before and if yes how to solve
- is there a wrong setting on my H140?
- or is there a general Rockbox restriction which doesnt allow to load more than 16k files?
- do I need to change the file structure for example just put all "Artist" folders in the top level?
I am not sure if this post is in the right forum section but it is certainly related to the H140 and the use of the 240gb HD.
Thanks for your HELP!
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