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Offline spazattk

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Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« on: September 05, 2011, 10:01:53 PM »
Hi,
I recently installed rockbox 3.91 on my Sansa Clip+, and all of my music is encoded in Ogg Vorbis using oggenc (from FLAC sources), but despite this none of it plays gaplessly. I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm going to try putting the FLAC copies on and see if they will play gaplessly, but I'm not sure what that will determine. Anyone have any ideas as to what the issue is? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 10:06:05 PM »
Post a link and I'll decode the file with test_codec and see if the length matches the official decoder. 
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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 10:09:43 PM »
A link to what exactly? Sorry, I'm sorta new to this. Do you want a link to the file in question?
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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 10:12:46 PM »
Quote from: spazattk on September 05, 2011, 10:09:43 PM
Do you want a link to the file in question?

well you can link whatever you want but it might work better if you picked a file you want help with
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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 10:18:27 PM »
Oh ok. Well here's a song that's supposed to transition seamlessly into the next one on the album: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/307214/01%20Intro.ogg

Post Merge: September 05, 2011, 10:21:45 PM
Also, I just confirmed that the FLAC version of an album plays gaplessly on the device, but the ogg version I encoded does not.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2011, 10:21:45 PM by spazattk »
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 10:30:28 PM »
Decoded it to wav with rockbox and foobar2000, and they're both exactly 976 080 samples long so it seems that the file is decoded gaplessly.  If you're hearing a gap, then perhaps its been added to the file before you encoded it to Vorbis.
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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 10:42:25 PM »
Interesting, thanks. Can I have you check a file I've confirmed has a gap when encoded to vorbis but not in the original FLAC version?
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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 10:43:45 PM »
Quote from: spazattk on September 05, 2011, 10:42:25 PM
Interesting, thanks. Can I have you check a file I've confirmed has a gap when encoded to vorbis but not in the original FLAC version?

I just did that. 
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Offline spazattk

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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 10:49:08 PM »
Well I haven't checked if the FLAC version of that song also has a gap. If it doesn't, do you have any idea why the vorbis version would have a gap? As far as I know, vorbis is encoded to be gapless by default isn't it?
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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 10:51:03 PM »
Quote from: spazattk on September 05, 2011, 10:49:08 PM
If it doesn't, do you have any idea why the vorbis version would have a gap? As far as I know, vorbis is encoded to be gapless by default isn't it?

Presumably whatever you used to convert it between FLAC and Vorbis added the gap before encoding it.
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Re: Vorbis gapless not working on Sansa Clip+
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 10:58:06 PM »
That's what I figured too. But I don't know what else to use. I guess I'll try a different version of oggenc and report back.
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