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Boot to Gecko/Rockbox customisation?
alsaf:
--- Quote from: saratoga on September 01, 2011, 01:35:47 PM ---
Then no, thats not going to work. Rockbox doesn't support or use HTML/javascript/networking/phone/etc.
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I was thinking along the lines of the underlying code of Rockbox being used then building upon that functionality for networking/phone etc. From further reading of the B2G project, they are not interested in the low level stuff. As yourself and Llorean mentioned, that would not suit the Rockbox project.
--- Quote from: saratoga on September 01, 2011, 01:35:47 PM ---
If you port rockbox to a phone as its firmware, then it basically becomes a simple music player like any other rockbox device. I would not expect this to improve battery life beyond what you'd save by disabling all the phone radio, graphics hardware and other functions that wouldn't work in rockbox. It seems to me if you want to make a phone into a portable music player to save power, you'd have a much easier time just hacking up your Android ROM to disable the phone and graphics hardware.
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I've just found out how to Root my phone so that could be a possibility.
saratoga:
--- Quote from: alsaf on September 01, 2011, 02:26:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: saratoga on September 01, 2011, 01:35:47 PM ---
Then no, thats not going to work. Rockbox doesn't support or use HTML/javascript/networking/phone/etc.
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I was thinking along the lines of the underlying code of Rockbox being used then building upon that functionality for networking/phone etc.
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This really isn't a realistic option. If you want a complicated operating system like Android, then stick to Android. It has all the underlying features you'll need to implement things like networking, javascript and such.
--- Quote from: alsaf on September 01, 2011, 02:26:49 PM ---I've just found out how to Root my phone so that could be a possibility.
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I don't think you actually need to root your phone. Just go into settings and disable all the radios, GPS, etc. That'll get you 95% of the way there.
alsaf:
--- Quote from: saratoga on September 01, 2011, 03:21:21 PM ---This really isn't a realistic option. If you want a complicated operating system like Android, then stick to Android. It has all the underlying features you'll need to implement things like networking, javascript and such.
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The point I was making is that a lot of features won't be used and is a drain on a low power device that the low-end Androids seem to be.
--- Quote from: saratoga on September 01, 2011, 03:21:21 PM ---I don't think you actually need to root your phone. Just go into settings and disable all the radios, GPS, etc. That'll get you 95% of the way there.
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Done that and while there is a noticeable extension to battery life, it is a lot less than conventional dumb-phone battery life. I read about this and it seems you are supposed to be charging smartphons all the time whether with a mains socket charger or via PC via using a USB connection. That is not really an option when you are out and about and want to say listen to music which the basis of my idea for a customised B2G/Rockbox. Thinking aloud here, while it would be a challenge to try and attempt it, would it be really worth the hassle as the hardware is not really designed for that?
Soap edit: Broken quote fix.
saratoga:
--- Quote from: alsaf on September 01, 2011, 03:57:30 PM ---Done that and while there is a noticeable extension to battery life, it is a lot less than conventional dumb-phone battery life.
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Then you probably just have a crappy phone.
--- Quote from: alsaf on September 01, 2011, 03:57:30 PM ---That is not really an option when you are out and about and want to say listen to music which the basis of my idea for a customised B2G/Rockbox. Thinking aloud here, while it would be a challenge to try and attempt it, would it be really worth the hassle as the hardware is not really designed for that?
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From what you've described, your idea isn't even possible.
alsaf:
--- Quote from: saratoga on September 01, 2011, 04:06:41 PM ---Then you probably just have a crappy phone.
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A matter of perception. A crappy phone or phone that is isn't designed to work properly with the software installed on it? While a phone is capable of running Android, it doesn't mean that is should be running Android. I noticed there is a replcement firmware called CyanogenMod which looks like it attempts to address the issues I raised.
--- Quote from: saratoga on September 01, 2011, 04:06:41 PM ---
From what you've described, your idea isn't even possible.
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Maybe not with the part with Rockbox involved, but still hypothetically possible without it.
Anyway, I had started this post for thoughts about the idea. Thanks for taking the time to reply to this.
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