Identifiying refurbished Fuze?

[Sakura90]

Hi!

Well, topic . I just saw a pretty cheap Fuze online. It says OEM, in a white box but with all the accessories. Not surprised, many do this to smuggle electronics, otherwise we have a 50% tax on everything (aside having to pay things 4 times more due to our useless currency), this is a 5th world country after all <_<

So, I can't assume it's refurbished from that, since I've already bought new items in generic boxes and is a common practice here. The guy says it's "new", but how can I believe it? If I buy I'll go to the physical store to check it out first. Is there any way to distinguish a new from refurbished? I recall reading somewhere that refurbished Sansas come with a "R" marked (burned?) on them. Is that common practice for ALL refurbished Sansas? Can I be sure that a "clean" Fuze is a new one?

Other stores don't have it anymore, only Clips and the new Fuzes (and even the 8GB Clips are more expensive than this Fuze). It's really hard to believe it's brand new, but... I have hope . I want Rockbox ofc, I'm not touching the OF even with a 10 feet pole, so, no new Fuze

Thanks

[yapper]

I have a refurbished Fuze and it does NOT have an "R" marked on it.

[saratoga]

Refurbished Sandisk players are identical in appearance to new players. 

I guess you could dump the contents of the file system and see in a hex editor if theres any deleted music files on it.  If you found someone's old files that would suggest it was a refurb.

[Sakura90]

I see...

All Fuzes appear to be refurbished though, at least from what I read on local forums about the Fuzes available here. Those super low prices weren't for nothing. New Fuzes ("new", I mean for the old v2) don't exist anymore. Too bad. I'm going for a Clip+ instead. Just to be sure, refurbished ones don't come in retail boxes, right? (last thing I need now is a refurbished in a retail, the colored printed one, box)

On another note, 4 or 8 gb? There's a 22 USD ($93 for me) difference between the two. I already have a 16gb microsd... but reading from a card suppousdly consumes more battery than playing from the player's internal memory, right? More with the Clip+ tiny battery. I'm planning to squeeze the last drop of battery life from it

[saratoga]

Just to be sure, refurbished ones don't come in retail boxes, right? (last thing I need now is a refurbished in a retail, the colored printed one, box)

A refurbished fuze is just a preowned one that someone is reselling.  They can be put in whatever box the reseller wishes to use. 

On another note, 4 or 8 gb? There's a 22 USD ($93 for me) difference between the two. I already have a 16gb microsd... but reading from a card suppousdly consumes more battery than playing from the player's internal memory, right? More with the Clip+ tiny battery. I'm planning to squeeze the last drop of battery life from it

Theres no meaningful difference between playing from internal and external memory. 

[Sakura90]

I thought refurbished were the RMA'd players that were "fixed" and put to sale again. And preowned players were just... "used" ones (without requiring repairs).

No difference? Not even half an hour of battery life? Great, then just get a 4GB and take the opportunity to get a nice color. Also I just read about the Clip Zip. I could get one (and sell the old Clip) when Rockbox becomes stable on it. If the color screen doesn't take more battery than the OLED one, it'd be pretty neat (I don't care much about the color, but a little bigger screen is welcome).


Thx for the quick replies, the previous one too


Edit: I haven't found any info comparing internal and external memory battery runtimes. In the battery wiki the only test with a microSD (on the Clip+) shows the lowest time of all. So the difference could be around ~2hs generally speaking?

Edit 2: Found this (you are in there too ). With microSDHC cards at least no meaningful difference. Will get the 4gb and see how the Zip turns out ^_^